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Title: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 14, 2013, 07:39:26 pm
Can you add a Polish Greatsword?

There's a picture
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There is stats:
Weapon lenght: 150
Weight: 5
Difficulty: 33 or 30 or 24
Speed rating: 77
Thrust damage: 42
Swing damage: 50
Slots: 2

Can't use on horseback

Can do a pommel strike

Ok?
I can pay 50k and a heirloom point for do that.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Sagar on December 14, 2013, 07:44:29 pm
That will be very difficult ...
We are waiting almost one month to see a skin for Flambard that is already in game  :rolleyes:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Alec on December 14, 2013, 07:49:08 pm
So it would be

- Same length as a flamberge
- the heaviest 2 hand ever
- terrible slow
- Only for people with strength, strength, strength... did i mention strength?
- OP thrust damage
- OP swing damage
- And only 2 slots for this all?

Kinda unrealistic and unbalaced if you ask me.
And beside that, if you balace the stats a bit it would be a second "Two handed sword".
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on December 14, 2013, 09:03:44 pm
Quote from: ADCS on December 14, 2013, 07:39:26 pm
Can you add a Polish Greatsword?

There's a picture
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There is stats:
Weapon lenght: 150
Weight: 5
Difficulty: 33 or 30 or 24
Speed rating: 77
Thrust damage: 42
Swing damage: 50
Slots: 2

Can't use on horseback

Can do a pommel strike

Ok?
I can pay 50k and a heirloom point for do that.
it is 1h sword
really old one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczerbiec

Overall length - 98.4 cm
Blade length - 82 cm
Blade width - 5 cm

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Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 08:44:32 am
I know it's in real 1h.
This sword was fit knights in Poland.

Alec:
Then we can do that:
Slots: 3
Difficulty: 21
weapon lenght: 140
Weight: 4.5
Speed rating: 80
thrust damage: 35
Swing damage: same-50


Now Ok?
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: owens on December 15, 2013, 11:48:52 am
Does anyone remember the "two handed sword" from fire and sword. Had almost the exact stats you are describing and was incredible.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 12:03:34 pm
Quote from: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 08:44:32 am
I know it's in real 1h.
This sword was fit knights in Poland.

Alec:
Then we can do that:
Slots: 3
Difficulty: 21
weapon lenght: 140
Weight: 4.5
Speed rating: 80
thrust damage: 35
Swing damage: same-50


Now Ok?


So, this sword will have 50 cut damage, which is more damage than a +3 Great long bardiche, and 35 pierce which is equal to the pierce damage of a +3 awlpike..

AND PEOPLE STILL WONDER WHY I DESPISE 2HANDERS?? 99% Of the 2handers have the same brain with this moron here, please, delete the mod and go play native, we already have enough low skilled brainless 2handers, we don`t need more.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Alec on December 15, 2013, 12:42:05 pm
Quote from: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 08:44:32 am
I know it's in real 1h.
This sword was fit knights in Poland.

Alec:
Then we can do that:
Slots: 3
Difficulty: 21
weapon lenght: 140
Weight: 4.5
Speed rating: 80
thrust damage: 35
Swing damage: same-50


Now Ok?

I like the sword and the idea :) But the stats need to be worked out :)
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 03:23:09 pm
Quote from: Sabjorn on December 15, 2013, 12:03:34 pm

So, this sword will have 50 cut damage, which is more damage than a +3 Great long bardiche, and 35 pierce which is equal to the pierce damage of a +3 awlpike..

AND PEOPLE STILL WONDER WHY I DESPISE 2HANDERS?? 99% Of the 2handers have the same brain with this moron here, please, delete the mod and go play native, we already have enough low skilled brainless 2handers, we don`t need more.
I really think you are nice guy but bulshit that you spread is just to much for me.

what is so stronk in 2h btw because I alredy forgot
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 03:37:55 pm
Quote from: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 03:23:09 pm
I really think you are nice guy but bulshit that you spread is just to much for me.

what is so stronk in 2h btw because I alredy forgot

Hitslash, lolstab, insta stab, face stab with no danger of getting bounced, enormous speed bonus, ghostreach.

 :lol:

Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 04:06:22 pm
Quote from: Sabjorn on December 15, 2013, 03:37:55 pm
Hitslash, lolstab, insta stab, face stab with no danger of getting bounced, enormous speed bonus, ghostreach.

 :lol:
but that is description of polerms you dummy

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lolstab, insta stab, face stab

isn't that 1 the same thing?
or you cant do that with polearms, with alwpike. English Bill, Glaive, Partisan, Ashwood Pike, Long Awlpike, Corseque, Elegant Poleaxe, German Poleaxe, Poleaxe, Spetum, Swiss Halberd, Ranseur, Battle Fork, War Spear, Red Tassel Spear, Long Spear, Pike, Lance, Light Lance, Iron Staff, Spear, Military Scythe, Military Scythe, Bamboo Spear, Quarter Staff, Shortened Spear?


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Hitslash
definition, what you understand by that?

Quote
enormous speed bonus
because all 2henders have +10 ath

Quote
ghostreach
...
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 04:09:20 pm
lol ok, you`re right, there is nothing wrong with 2h class.

All of you 2handers are elite players, thats why, when you try another class, are at least mediocre  players :lol:


2h class, making everyone a good player since 2010
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 04:15:17 pm
Quote from: Sabjorn on December 15, 2013, 04:09:20 pm
lol ok, you`re right, there is nothing wrong with 2h class.

All of you 2handers are elite players, thats why, when you try another class, are at least mediocre  players :lol:


2h class, making everyone a good player since 2010
just fuking answer me you ignorant prick
shiting everything you don't understand or like,
that is what you are best at

/rant


Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 04:19:08 pm
Ok.
Sabjorn suggest the stats.

But look at Persian Battle Axe
48 damage by swing
98 lenght-very bad yes but,
Bonus against shields and 90 speed with 4.7 weight
 This weapon is very good
The biggest in mod damage and bonus against shields.
Flamberge have 4 weight and 86speed
Persian Battle Axe have 4.7 and 90 speed
Then look: good speed,Best damage in mod, and bonus against shields, bad lenght

Maybe i don't show good number for difficulty but looking at speed that not the best
And we can shorten the lenght
And 25 pierce damage
Ok?
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlueKnight on December 15, 2013, 04:20:54 pm
Don't waste your time Bobby...

Quote from: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 04:19:08 pm
Ok.
Sabjorn suggest the stats.

But look at Persian Battle Axe
48 damage by swing
98 lenght-very bad yes but,
Bonus against shields and 90 speed with 4.7 weight
 This weapon is very good
The biggest in mod damage and bonus against shields.
Flamberge have 4 weight and 86speed
Persian Battle Axe have 4.7 and 90 speed
Then look: good speed,Best damage in mod, and bonus against shields, bad lenght

Maybe i don't show good number for difficulty but looking at speed that not the best
And we can shorten the lenght
And 25 pierce damage
Ok?

I guess you are quite new to this mod or at least to forums. Unless you provide the item model or creator's agreement to use it in this mod, the item won't be added, also the stats would be set by the developers of the mod. You can just suggest them slightly but unless you know the mod well enough your suggestion won't be even taken seriously.

Where I see the problem:
1. It should match it's length that it has in real life
2. It should be comparable (stats) to other weapons (nothing like max stab or max cut dmg in game or slowest speed or sth, basically no extremum)
3. We don't have model of the weapon
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 04:24:07 pm
Quote from: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 04:19:08 pm
Ok.
Sabjorn suggest the stats.

But look at Persian Battle Axe
48 damage by swing
98 lenght-very bad yes but,
Bonus against shields and 90 speed with 4.7 weight
 This weapon is very good
The biggest in mod damage and bonus against shields.
Flamberge have 4 weight and 86speed
Persian Battle Axe have 4.7 and 90 speed
Then look: good speed,Best damage in mod, and bonus against shields, bad lenght

Maybe i don't show good number for difficulty but looking at speed that not the best
And we can shorten the lenght
Ok?

sorry for that off topick but some guys drive me mad around here and I should find some better hobby that that

If you want submit new weapon to crpg you must  have model( In good quality) of weapon that really existed.


for now you have picture of 1h sword and some really broken stats for it, You should foucus you effort on model first( meake sure it is OSP) but there is still small chance devs will add new weapon any time soon
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 04:32:08 pm
Ah, and I was wondering when BlueKnight with his "don`t mind Panos" nerd line will show up.

Words can`t express how much joy it gives me to bash 2handers at the forums, and own them at the fields  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 04:33:32 pm
I know you and still...

Malaka
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlueKnight on December 15, 2013, 04:41:29 pm
Quote from: Sabjorn on December 15, 2013, 04:32:08 pm
Ah, and I was wondering when BlueKnight with his "don`t mind Panos" nerd line will show up.

Words can`t express how much joy it gives me to bash 2handers at the forums, and own them at the fields  :rolleyes:
You are probably the most biasted person in cRPG...
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 04:43:20 pm
Quote from: BlueKnight on December 15, 2013, 04:41:29 pm
You are probably the most biasted person in cRPG...

coming from a player who abuses all the broken things in 2h class, oh god..

 :lol:
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 04:48:29 pm
yeah I bump couch with my great axe
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on December 15, 2013, 05:03:14 pm
>implying 2h is still beter than polearm
>2014
y u do this panos
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlueKnight on December 15, 2013, 05:03:43 pm
Quote from: Sabjorn on December 15, 2013, 04:43:20 pm
coming from a player who abuses all the broken things in 2h class, oh god..

 :lol:
Yet I play quite often as a polearmer&cav and 1h from time to time.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 08:33:54 pm
Maybe something like that:
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But with eagle there where we see on first my image.
Good?
This is not my project
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlueKnight on December 15, 2013, 09:36:50 pm
I don't really know much about modelling but if you provide pictures of an item in game or a model with the texture on it, I guess it would be awkay. Also keep in mind that it usually takes a while to see something implemented in this mod and nobody can tell you this will be 100% added.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Alec on December 15, 2013, 09:43:23 pm
Quote from: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 08:33:54 pm
Maybe something like that:
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But with eagle there where we see on first my image.
Good?
This is not my project

Have a look at this thread: http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/cool-weapon-and-armor/
That's some modeling.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 10:41:23 pm
I can't modeling but when somebody's model it, i'm very happy and i can pay 1 heirloom point when it's be added
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 15, 2013, 10:48:20 pm
I find some new fotos:
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Maybe something is be from this ? :D
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlueKnight on December 15, 2013, 11:23:11 pm
What is the source (website)? The item would have to be checked in game if it doesn't stand out from other items. Also if the length of the weapon remains under ~100 it will be classified as 1h. If this sword had more than ~100 length and was going to be ever added, it would have a chance to become 1h/2h.

Imho the item seems to have a bit 2yellow handle but if I get the adress of the website and play a little with the files I may get it working in crpg and check whether this item stands out too much or not.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 17, 2013, 03:39:59 pm
What i must to do?
Help me
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Macropus on December 17, 2013, 11:06:14 pm
First of all, why add a new 2h sword? Isn't there enough already?
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: sF_Guardian on December 17, 2013, 11:12:29 pm
My simple advice: stay realistic.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlindGuy on December 17, 2013, 11:27:15 pm
Quote from: Sabjorn on December 15, 2013, 12:03:34 pm

So, this sword will have 50 cut damage, which is more damage than a +3 Great long bardiche, and 35 pierce which is equal to the pierce damage of a +3 awlpike..

AND PEOPLE STILL WONDER WHY I DESPISE 2HANDERS?? 99% Of the 2handers have the same brain with this moron here, please, delete the mod and go play native, we already have enough low skilled brainless 2handers, we don`t need more.

This aint a 2hander, hes just an idiot panos.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on December 18, 2013, 07:12:16 am
GAME NEEDS MORE SWORDS
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlueKnight on December 18, 2013, 04:22:06 pm
Quote from: BlindGuy on December 17, 2013, 11:27:15 pm
hes just an idiot panos.
No, he's a helpless newcomer.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: BlindGuy on December 18, 2013, 08:53:55 pm
Quote from: BlueKnight on December 18, 2013, 04:22:06 pm
No, he's a helpless newcomer.

Guess so. He should explore our amazing selection of scifi and anime 2handers before trying to add new stuff.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 21, 2013, 11:19:45 am
What's is bad in that sword?
You only say this is bad, i'm idiot or what.
You only can say.
Nobody say what's bad or how to do the stats, only bad,you idiot, retard and more like that.
Think before you write something
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Silfarion on December 21, 2013, 05:41:36 pm
Well, it does a shitload of damage and it's very long, but very slow

I propose we make it speed 10-20 for lols because if you can't block or even dodge something moving at that speed then you shouldn't be playing cRPG in the first place :P
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: sF_Guardian on December 21, 2013, 06:35:04 pm
Well, don't take the shit to serious that gets thrown at you, including mine.
This is just how this community works, guess everyone has to deal with it.
Simple thing is that the proposed stats are simply OP.
A lot of ppl here have played this mod/this game for 3+ years so we know pretty good if something is OP or not
or at least think we do so.Second thing is that you should always keep in mind that a weapon should fit in the current weapon selection and not step
out of it too far.
Third thing is that a proposed weapon should represent it's real counterpart and not be completely different in
lenght or the style how it's been used in reality.
And the most important thing is that before a really good model is made that's free to use for this mod basically nothing will happen.
This sword would be something like the Italian Sword/Knightly Arming Sword or NCS if it would get added and not something like a Flamberge.
The point is, that we have enough onehanders in this category and don't need a new one.
A sword with your proposed stats would be completely over the top. Currently we have the Bardiches and the Persian Axes for the hit like a truck category of the twohanders.
They are short and unbalanced wich prevents firstly backpedaling and secondly using the shitmoves that u can do with the Greatswords for example.
This sword would add a completely new category for crpg, something like the old Looney Toons axe which was terribly OP IMO.
I don't want something like this added because while being a funny weapon it kills balance and promotes s-key heroing.
And after all a wapon with 33 str+ difficulty would be only used by like 1% of the community anyways.
If you wan't this to be added, first find someone to make a good model for it and second suggest stats that actually fit it's real counterpart.
(And wait for ages for it being added with a like 5% chance or so.)
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: ADCS on December 23, 2013, 04:40:02 pm
Suggest the stats, because everything what I suggest you say bad.
Suggest, only suggest!
Nobody suggest the stats but everybody is smart and good, and saying, that bad, that bad.
PEOPLE!!!!
Forum is the place where people helping and suggest new things to mod, but I see you do that forum for place to hating.
With that mod never be better.
I see there is only few normal people.
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: Sniger on December 23, 2013, 05:34:05 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_swords
Title: Re: New 2h sword
Post by: sF_Guardian on December 23, 2013, 07:41:01 pm
Quote from: ADCS on December 23, 2013, 04:40:02 pm
Suggest the stats, because everything what I suggest you say bad.
Suggest, only suggest!
Nobody suggest the stats but everybody is smart and good, and saying, that bad, that bad.
PEOPLE!!!!
Forum is the place where people helping and suggest new things to mod, but I see you do that forum for place to hating.
With that mod never be better.
I see there is only few normal people.

A suggestion needs to be rated somehow, don't get offended if people dislike it.
After all it's a suggestion.
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