Also TKoV, didnt you promise us 40k troops at our doorstep? I mean, we only brutally slaughtered 17k or so. I expect another 23k sometime soon, or you can hand in your man-cards.They gotta wait for the Okay from FCC you dolt. :mrgreen:
I guess I just made this post to say, fuck you, reveal what was happening inside of this whole debacle, see what TKoV's responses are, for entertainment purposes, and to see if they admit this shit. Oh and I also would entertain seeing if HoC continues to be a thorn in our asses, after gaining this information.
Keep on keepin on shitbag nerds
~~~~aldowild
So... just recently I have learned a few things about the previous Velucan Empire dissolution. Apparently HoC didn't break off on their own terms, because they were not happy with the current happenings, or current situation within the faction. Apparently they broke off as part of a plan in which both TKoV and HoC were a part of. A plan to attack us, with HoC doing the dirty work, and TKoV just kind of kicking back and fueling them without TKoV catching any bad press, and without leaving a bad taste in MB's mouths as far as TKoV was concerned. Well while we're right here, I'd just like to mention that your plan failed miserably on both accounts. 1: your attacks were pathetic, both of you, as was your plan... you slimy internet fucks. 2: Now everyone knows that your plan was greasy, and ill-constructed. GF
wow kesh, i now know why everyone hates you.
I meant to add in a note at the end inviting fcc and friends to counter-post defending tkov and HoC in this silly mess. Thanks for filling me in on everything that happened. You were so involved in the whole thing, and because you were so involved, you obviously are quite knowledgeable of what happened. I was actually told that this happened from a previous VE member, who left the VE due to how poorly the whole situation was handled. FCC and Frisia are just friendly with MB because we now all share a common interest in seeing FCC, the shitbird faction, go down. Also we are all enjoying your long reaching replies, just creeping the forums 24/7 waiting to make your next shitpost. Your ships going down, and you're screams give us great pleasure. I don't want to enjoy it, but its just human nature.
The entire reason we attacked TKoV, was because they promised that if we broke off, they would attack us. An offensive defense if you will.
Thanks for randomly insulting my leadership skills though. There was that one night where i failed to put gold into our castle. Might have cost us 300 troops in the end of it. Sorry I'm not hovering over my PC spilling dr pepper and cheetos dust into my keyboard 24/7, you pathetic fucking nerd. Truth is I'm not very experienced in strat, I usually handled the recruiting / clan management part of MB, while 9finger ran the strat end. Was a good setup until i decided to talk to idiots like you in a place where the public can read it, forcing me to hafta make page long posts defending myself from absurd claims you make with things that don't even remotely concern you. However, it seems like we have the top two important parts of strat under wraps. Outposting rage baby nerds like yourself, and winning battles.
and retire?? nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It was all my idea.
Not to be confused with the Unicorns-BRD-Cavaliers-Remnant-HoC-Acre-TKoV-Raven-Fallen-AoW-carebear alliance. I know i left out a few, sorry
^ true story - he also masterminded the occitan-chevaliers-frisians-hospitallers-lost legion-chaos-fidlgb-mb-golden apple corps super massive gay carebear allaince after convincing aldo everyone should share a ts (hes the true genius of strat)
yeah sorry relit, it was more for dramatic effect, much like kesh's post. I dont actually believe u are allied with FCC
^ true story - he also masterminded the occitan-chevaliers-frisians-hospitallers-lost legion-chaos-fidlgb-mb-golden apple corps super massive gay carebear allaince after convincing aldo everyone should share a ts (hes the true genius of strat)still not bad compare the fcc-brd-unicorn-bs-cavalieres-aow-teutonic-acre-fallen-black compagny-hg-hoc-remnant in 1 faction/ also having tkov-raven-beserker-gow(rohan)-desire on your side damn the list is quite longer and bigger just notice that.
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still not bad compare the fcc-brd-unicorn-bs-cavalieres-aow-teutonic-acre-fallen-black compagny-hg-hoc-remnant in 1 faction/ also having tkov-raven-beserker-gow(rohan)-desire on your side damn the list is quite longer and bigger just notice that.
So you're saying you now have a similar situation that FCC had when they attacked Hospitallers?
still not bad compare the fcc-brd-unicorn-bs-cavalieres-aow-teutonic-acre-fallen-black compagny-hg-hoc-remnant in 1 faction/ also having tkov-raven-beserker-gow(rohan)-desire on your side damn the list is quite longer and bigger just notice that.
pw: you forgot the mate!!!!(click to show/hide)
you forgot a couple canuck :(
^ true story - he also masterminded the occitan-chevaliers-frisians-hospitallers-lost legion-chaos-fidlgb-mb-golden apple corps super massive gay carebear allaince after convincing aldo everyone should share a ts (hes the true genius of strat)
Not to be confused with the Unicorns-BRD-Cavaliers-Remnant-HoC-Acre-TKoV-Raven-Fallen-AoW-carebear alliance. I know i left out a few, sorry
Wait are you trying to say FCC was out-manned by a factor of 6:1 in troops when they attacked Hospitallers? Because that is just an intensely false thing to say you fucknerd pirate bastard.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. But anyone with half a brain would work with friendly factions and buy or borrow troops. You've done alternating waves of attacks with your allies before, don't pretend you are fighting FCC alone. You are just hiding behind numbers at this point. Anyway, FCC is about as inactive as Hospitallers was at that time. Just ask Centrelink how little map activity FCC has now.
if it was just us vrs you that argument would mean you would no longer be on the map. However, your alliance you are part could possibly have double what we have.
The Mighty BS faction = Bale!! be afraid
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. But anyone with half a brain would work with friendly factions and buy or borrow troops. You've done alternating waves of attacks with your allies before, don't pretend you are fighting FCC alone. You are just hiding behind numbers at this point. Anyway, FCC is about as inactive as Hospitallers was at that time. Just ask Centrelink how little map activity FCC has now.
over NINE. THOUSAND.
It was all my idea.
This is the big bad faction you're all afraid of. Like I said FCC, which, if you couldn't tell, I am distancing myself from at this point, is more or less Hospitallers of 6 months ago.
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All this shows is that you are turtling hardcore. With 91 000 troops.
My favorite thing about this thread is that Keshian got muted today for shitposting too much so now he just goes and -1s every post I make, since he can't contribute. top lel m8Who has the time or no life to do such a thing to just -1 posts all day. Oh forgot right who we are talking about for a moment. :P
Who has the time or no life to do such a thing to just -1 posts all day. Oh forgot right who we are talking about for a moment. :P
You're all doing a great job! (owned, Rhalzo, beaten to the punch) I'd like to go into detail about how awesome this thread is:
Aldogalus: Here you posted an amazing implication against your former benefactor. It was totally awesome. I don't care if it's true, this is the strategus I choose to believe in.
(in light of the things Hobb and Trist said, it seems entirely likely that whatever hearsay this thread is supposedly based on was an easily misconstrued way of looking at events and, possibly, things TKoV/HoC leaders have said in the past). I hope to hear more good things like this
Hobb and Tristran: You guys are great. I'd have liked to interact with yaw more this strat but that whole ginormous faction thing made it an uninteresting prospect to approach from either side. I feel like you should have played the situation in this thread up a bit more. Playing into Aldo's rantings would have been fun for everyone, even if you gave him the satisfaction. I don't think, especially considering Hobb's well-said description of strat playstyles, it would've made you out as that big of shitprinces, either.
Adoptagoat: You're actually giving more credence to Aldo's crackpot theory. There was a seed of truth behind it? Well, shucks! Even if it wasn't a tangible scheme, there was a sentiment there, and those things tend to grow and get worse.
Bonesaw: I would enjoy a post from you on this, hoo-boy! I dunno what led you to apparently burn out on the and go crazy, but hopefully it was just the game being shitty.
Daruvian: You are sometimes a great shitposter, but you get lazy. Work harder. (A+ for 91,000, though)
Tears and anybody still in Fallen (I mean, hi, Dach): Posting somewhere you don't really have any belonging, again, saying something inane and useless. Guess it's okay when everybody else is doing it, this time... :wink:
Murdertron: Anybody still responding to things he says is not treating themselves with respect. He's a very lackluster troll.
Sandersson: Keep fighting the good fight. Even if you aren't laid-back about strat, you suuuuure sound like it. It puts me at ease. 8-) Your fights are fun. (see below)
BaleOhay: I would have signed up for you guys tonight but Frisia is so much more fun to fight for. If I had to rank how much fun different teamspeaks are for strat battles, I'd put Frisia at probably second (after Occitan fights when Arowaine leads and is in a good mood). Not your fault, but FCC is one of the least fun environments to fight battles in. No disrespect, but enjoyment ought to be my chief concern. Well-fought and all-what, you know.
FUPA guys: Please be more relevant, please, please.
Matey: I think you're forgetting how factions work. The loudest mouth speaks for and condemns the rest of the body. In your post that applies not only to Aldogalus but also you guys, as well. (also, is that some fishing for information I see...?)
Relit: Ravens have always seemed to me like the one faction watching all the other ones acting foolish. The 'shaking-their-head-in-disbelief-and-disgust' faction. I don't agree with the approach, but I respect you for it.
Kesh: It is very apparent that you use deflection anytime someone says something you disagree with. Nearly every time you say an insult or insinuation it seems to directly apply to you as well. Imaginary grudges are precisely the kind you make before someone's intentions even become decided. Their response to your flipping out when they finally do something you disapprove of (as "proof" for your grudge) is inevitably to dislike you. It's a vicious cycle, you don't have to keep making people hate you!
Jona: cool rp man very well written and good story telling *two thumbs up* not out of place in this thread at all (but really, it was kind of interesting to hear the thoughts on events from someone inside. Much of what happened became so public I don't think I learned anything new, though. At least not anything that was actually true...)
Disclaimer: This is the dark half of strategus, and it's necessary to keep the other side of it interesting.Keep up the good work!
I don't think I have anyone I hate enough to dedicate a "shit post" too
Keep banning and shooting arowaine in strategus battles and before long he'll shit post about you and you can do one in reply
Much of what happened became so public I don't think I learned anything new, though. At least not anything that was actually true...)[/size]
Matter of a fact this whole post I just did is off topic and deserves a warning.
Well I don't know what you had learned prior to that post, but much of what had become public was similar to aldo's OP... and you can see there are just a few discrepancies between his version and the truthful documentary post of mine.
Dangit Desire, breaking the flow of this thread! For that I may just have to take your miserable little feif! Prepare for a siege!(click to show/hide)
If you want too go ahead! be a fun little fight, and give me something to do for the rest of strat. RECLAIM MY LAND!
Tears and anybody still in Fallen (I mean, hi, Dach): Posting somewhere you don't really have any belonging, again, saying something inane and useless. Guess it's okay when everybody else is doing it, this time... :wink:
You really need to stop believing every idiotic rumor frisians and occitan spread without a whit of proof.
What makes you think i want to read that wall of text.
nerd.
all i care about is i got an old HoC fief which at this point any one of you spergs can take
I'm assuming Jaren is the guy who told you this, but ironically you are all former VE members so idk why you put that. If you didnt here it from Trist or myself, it most likely isn't true. And in the case of Aldog's involvement in strat, you literally had zero knowledge of any politics for VE or even MB. It took you six months to fight in one of our battles, and you never showed interest in leading anything.I'm not sure I enjoy being some sort of hinging factor in this great debacle or how my role matters at all. The easiest way I can explain my stand point was that I watched VE collapse internally in a little more then a day. As far as the specifics; events between all clans played out over time as the collapse became an actuality for most of the clans and their members. After I returned from my bit of hiatus I had no idea that VE had the majority of its leadership either afk for some time or just up and quit. Nevertheless, I joined TKoV specifically for strat reasons, I know very well how much the leadership wanted to win and I worked my way into an officer role just to support you guys in any means I could. I didn't abandon you guys as some form of traitor or vagrant only in spite. I left because my ideals had changed and a once dormant clan was looking to become a contender, a clan I've had the opportunity to work with on many strat occasions.
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5096
lol
I think the chief problem and greatest strength I have with strat is that its open-worldness requires you to play in 1 of 2 catagories. You either play serious, strict RP diplomacy with kings, lords, vassals, and allies, or you play "yolo who gives a shit lets just attack shit." What I have found in my years of strat is that not only do people in one catagory not get along with people from the other, but also, people will switch sides, or worse be yolo about 1 aspect of strat, yet hardcore about another. So what I am about to say isn't just a rant on Aldog, but on almost everyone who plays strat.
I guess I am alone in thinking strat is a game for our entire community to enjoy, not a e-peen test to see who is better at internet fighting. Now don't get me wrong, I tried very hard to "win" strat, we had a plan to literally make a play at the entire NA map. But I always viewed it as a way to bring battles and a plot to our community. So most people might think I hate LCO for being the straw that broke my camel's back, but its quite the opposite actually, I have great respect for Arrowaine and the LCO guys for letting me face them in what was no doubt the most competitive, strategiclly played war NA has ever had. Both sides had incredible map and battle management.
And it is too bad that shitty strat mechanics and bugs drove most of the interests away from VE members(as well as many others) and I quit giving a shit, Trist quit giving a shit, and HoC decided to split when myself, trist, and 9finger were all AFK for at least a week. We were a huge faction, but even at our peak in activity every major decision was made by either Trist or myself, and several others would take leadership interests for small periods of time. But that is strat, you cant rule by commitee, its too inefficient. So trist handled the number stuff, army logistics, and war preperations, and I handled trade and most importantly, I kept VE together. VE was my baby, I spent a very long time putting our clans together, so I know more than anyone about VE, its leaders, and downfall. So that being said: Aldog,you are a dumbass.
I'm assuming Jaren is the guy who told you this, but ironically you are all former VE members so idk why you put that. If you didnt here it from Trist or myself, it most likely isn't true. And in the case of Aldog's involvement in strat, you literally had zero knowledge of any politics for VE or even MB. It took you six months to fight in one of our battles, and you never showed interest in leading anything.
So to get back to my first point, Aldog was always the "strats for nerds, lets just yolo for xp" mindset, and naturally most of your mems followed you. 9finger and canada ran MB, and I loved working with guys. HoC was just the opposite, they took everything seriously, working with bonesaw and warborn was such a challenge, but i think you guys are the main reason I put so many hours into strat, i would do it again in a heart-beat. The irony in all of this, is HoC split from us because they didnt give a shit anymore, and MB wanted got pissed at how our beloved God Emperor King Robert handled drunken diplomacy. All of those nights I spent going to your TS asking you to quit over the top trolling HoC, and you guys leave from one incident with a guy who doesnt really care about strat, in Robert.
I get it, you wake up one day and decide you want to become involved, or just do something else entirely. Its a video game, no one blames hoc or mb for doing what you did, I told you this when we talked in TS. But to address the OP: HoC split because A) bonesaw wanted to B) they felt our leadership sucked and they wanted to- "get off a sinking ship." If you knew me at all, you knew I wanted to win real bad, so why the fuck would I want to attack someone in my own faction? Someone who worked very hard and didnt mind letting us make the big decisions. We would never have attacked HoC why they were still VE.
Now the last part, and my personal favorite because I feel like it truly expresses the fundamental differences of a Yolo'er like aldog, and a hardcore nerd like me, is our war with MB. The fact is, we wanted to fight both MB and HoC, but we needed to get a 2v1 in order to do it. It was also no secret we wanted Uxxhal, VE is keeping the Rhodok lands etc. HoC wimped out though, bonesaw said they were so tired of MB they didnt even want to fight them anymore. So being the cunning lord that I am, I tried to threaten you guys by bluffing and telling you HoC was with us, but that we would have rather fight HoC with MB as an ally. In reality, I didnt care which one of you we fought, I just wanted to attack one of you. Which almost worked, but you guys just said you werent going to fight HoC, and months went by without anything happening.
Now some people would call that low, but I call it diplomacy. It is why I love Kesh, Arrowaine, Turboflex, Grey Order, and DRZ. It makes the game competitive and interesting, and I feel it the only "fair" thing about strat. And yes, we got raped pretty bad in those Nomar battles, but if you actually know anything about strat, the -1k battle kd in those 5 or 6 battles is nothing, and uxxhal lost over 5k troops to upkeep alone.
** this is done from my phone while at work, so its prob full of grammy errors.
The moment I began caring, was the moment i realized we were more or less in cahoots with FCC, the other massive faction in NA.
As to why you feel the need to continuously mention that one time, and it was ONE TIME, that i neglected to put gold into the castle, I really don't know.
Trist, I already said attacking you guys was a fuckup. I said it in TS 20 times, and I said it again 2 times in the forums. What else do you want me to say? I'll repeat it for you once more, but that's it. IT WAS A STRATEGICALLY DUMB MOVE, AND A MORALLY QUESTIONABLE MOVE. there. As I said before, I wasn't in control of what was happening ( or even aware of the situation enough to make an educated decision), as my PC was shitcanned for about 2 months. I'm not trying to act innocent, I'm the aggressor in this post, not the defendant.
TL;DR portion.. Don't get mad over spilled milk.
A few things i'd like to say here. Hobb, I still respect you, and could see us having a legitimate conversation about this sometime in team speak. Could even see us shooting the breeze afterwards with very little animosity towards one another. That being said, I think you are a complete tryhard and massive internet bundle of sticks.
As I recall, I expressed interest in playing a more active roll in our leadership. I remember you telling me it was great, and that we needed more people to take an active roll in coordinating and running our faction. I was pretty much down to do it. However, I wasn't able to just guess what time the meetings were happening, or fill myself in on all of our current situation.
Oh and that part where i insulted you hobb, was supposed to be a joke, though I don't really get why you called me a dumbass, and am slightly offended at that. If you honestly think any mistake I have ever made was due to incompetence, you are wrong sir. I was wrong one time, and one time only. This one time I thought I had made a mistake, but it turns out I was wrong, and that mistake never actually took place. Silly of me to second guess myself.
It amuses me that you hate Cyranule so very much. I get the feeling you have never even talked to him.
I need to really start staying on top of this really long, drawn out sob story Diplomacy posts. They make me almost want to play this game more often.
I think what Hobb said is true though, while we love to call each other out on things we don't agree with, that's what makes Strategus fun. You have a lot of different leadership styles and mindsets, and what one clan may hold as a value, another may see it as a means to crush them. You cannot fault that, it is that way even in the modern world. Sure, some of us are sniffling snot-nosed fucks that hate our job at Walmart and can't wait to get home to play Strat because we feel powerful--but without these shitdrinkers and cumasses Strategus would be boring. So, that said, I think Velucan Empire was destined for failure from the start. 3 Clans, 3 obviously different mindsets, and the obvious distaste for one another between MB and HoC was evident for all to see in NA_1 or NA_2. Not all MB or HoC disliked each other I'm sure, but there was enough banter to be noticeable.
I personally enjoyed MB's battles when 9Finger lead them. I rarely saw Aldogalus in the battle, and if I did, he was belligerently drunk on teamspeak. That was maybe 1-2 battles, otherwise I didn't see him. Maybe not the best leadership style, but those involved with the battle knew that calls were coming down from 9Finger so it wasn't a big deal. I think the dissolving of VE was good though, this civil war was fun for everyone, my only hopes are that it would rekindle its flame and start up again. We need more 2000 v 2000 heavy plate battles, not only for xp, but because Strat seems to be running only on fumes any longer. Why am I bothering to write this much in the Diplomacy section. God damn it you fucks have drawn me in!
TL;DR portion.. Don't get mad over spilled milk. This is a War Game, it becomes very Diplomatic. We have a lot of different groups of people, and a lot of different playstyles people want to go about when playing this game. You cannot fault people for their actions if they don't play the same as you would expect them to play.
This goes out to Jaren (or moreso for me to save face, since I've already told jaren all this in TS). Jaren, SWEET SWEET JURN, I am so sorry for bringing you into this thread. I didn't think about it at the time, but it was a selfish move to mention you indirectly, as TKoV would obviously know whom I was talking about, and bring it up later in the thread. My own thirst for nerd tears let me get the best of me, and I hope it didn't compromise any social ties that you had between you and TKoV members. I surely should have asked your permission before posting this. Fortunately you are as forgiving as allah, our lord and saviour.
~~~~~~~~~aldowild out
bring back kuut, start doing something ask your menbers to grind troops do trade and make your battle lead your stuff make your economy etc
Desire is a pretty terrible admin and an even worse FCC vassal. Yes, this is an insult on your honor and integrity. We can settle this with a joust later tonight or tomorrow night if you are around.Huesby did you really need to bring up another thing that i dislike...hate. I HATE CAV. YOU WANT A CAV RANT YOU GOT IT. OH IM HUESBY I GO FOR SPAWN 30 SECONDS INTO THE GAME. I COULD MELEE IF I PLAYED IT, BUT INSTEAD ILL JUST GO CAV FOR 43 GENS. I AIM FOR ALDOG CUZ ITS PHUNI HARHAR. I AM METAPHORICALLY AND PHYSICALLY AN OBEEZ NARC
I always liked couching Aldo on the battlefield, but since that scumball stopped wearing his heraldic mail w/ tabard it makes it a lot harder to spot my favorite couching target...I also respect that he keeps his clan members in line and doesn't afraid of anything.
*PAGING CommieCossack Joe to the thread*
Yeah bro, I try hard at any competitive game I play. To me, games are not fun without that competitive edge to it. Strat was particularly relevant because I could do pretty much everything except for the battles from my phone at work or school, so it was easy to stay on top of things. I mean anything to get out of work right?
Exactly man, exactly. See this is basically why your OP annoyed me, because you simply do not know hardly anything about strat, yet you hear some rumor and go with it. None of us actually had time to get together and "meet," and we rarely had meetings. Bonesaw and 9finger just did there own things, got the people they needed to help them, and we worked together on things like sharing S&D and Production Points. You pick something you want to do, you do something, that is strat leadership.
The OP is filled with accusations about something I was heavily invested in and everything you said was false. To me, that makes you a troll or a dumbass, and I am fairly sure you believed everything you wrote. If you were actually curious about the situation and not just wanting to smear shit on my clan, you would have tried to contact me or trist directly. That being said, drama threads are pretty awesome, I for one won't step down from the challenge.
And as far as being cool about everything, it's the same situation with Require I think. To where you guys think that I was somehow being malicious and taking advantage of you guys, like somehow I was doing something wrong by getting you guys to play internet swords and horses with me. I mean strat is about having fun and battles right? We had lots of battles, drama, and xp for everyone. No one forced MB to join VE. You wanted to leave more than once, and yes I tried to talk you out of it, but we never said you couldnt leave, although the Uxxhal land was something we wanted to keep.
That being said, drama threads are pretty awesome, I for one won't step down from the challenge.
bring back kuut, start doing something ask your menbers to grind troops do trade and make your battle lead your stuff make your economy etc
+1 for French accent even when writing :D
Is there no such thing as a comma in French?
What else am I supposed to go on? During my PC hiatus, HoC broke off from TKoV and attacked us, and afterwards I hear from a pretty damn reliable source, that it was an idea comprised and praised by both teh current leaders on each side. I believe Rob and Bonesaw made that play, it just makes too much sense. All I have to go on, is the fact that you and all the other leaders were on vacation or some shit, Bonesaw and Rob both dislike us, and that HoC broke off and attacked us during this period. Then I hear from a integrity-filled character like Jaren, that they were discussing this in a TS. Are you denying that it happened Hobb?
You doomed yourselves with your own posts IMO, goat admitting that it was at least an idea, and your post about how Rob was the one who was actively in charge. Then look at the turn of events, and it's pretty crystal clear IMO.
Kesh, Aldo is thee coolest guy in crpg end of story. I have never seen one clan base there activeness of off one guy playing. People flock to Aldo. He can't be a bad leader. The only other better leader and figurehead would be mokucin
YOU ARE WRONG
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