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Title: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on April 29, 2011, 09:22:08 pm
Hmm...

Waht teh 'ell is taht?

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the part with "All..."
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on April 29, 2011, 09:23:47 pm
Did you level?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on April 29, 2011, 09:25:46 pm
While before it showed up.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on April 29, 2011, 09:31:57 pm
While before it showed up.

Then I have no idea, my detective skills end there, but it SOUNDS like you have increased something through fighting, thus a level but I don't think there were any "hidden" updates, such as wpf increased by what you wear or "gaining better skill with a weapon or armour" through use.

I think it might have been a delayed reaction, or it might have been where the server got the skills through after you saved them on the website or the "c" character sheet. Just a notification saying this, that's my best guess anyway.

"All thine hard work payeth off. Thou art hast a better understanding of the weapons in thine hand and armour on thy skin." for those who can't see it, although I don't like the American English they used >:<
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on April 29, 2011, 09:39:06 pm
haha i am famous now :D what should we see on the screen tho? O.o
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on April 29, 2011, 09:40:01 pm
"All thine hard work payeth off..."
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on April 30, 2011, 11:25:26 am
pure awesomeness, now i understand :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cyclopsided on April 30, 2011, 11:54:40 am
oh i heard about that message.
*waits for info*
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on April 30, 2011, 12:03:38 pm
Feel free to figure it out, that one is a secret :)

(protip: getting that message is a very, very, good thing)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Babelfish on April 30, 2011, 12:11:36 pm
Did your weapon improve? Like in a free heirloom.

I remember that was one of the alternatives to retirement a few months ago.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mamba on April 30, 2011, 01:31:27 pm
Maybe you got a free weaponpoint or statpoint in something. THE DONKEY WON'T TELL!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Goretooth on April 30, 2011, 01:32:17 pm
I got it twice so far.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on April 30, 2011, 01:40:42 pm
Dmg and hp buff?

Dmg buff itself?

Maybe... wait...

Maybe I am doing better dmg with a GIVEN weapon, I held? Tempered Niuweidao even better?

Oh, chadz, will you tell us when we are near truth or away from it?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Meow on April 30, 2011, 01:41:51 pm
It needs to be nerfed!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kalam on April 30, 2011, 02:57:46 pm
It seems to happen often in the duel server.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: [ptx] on April 30, 2011, 03:35:49 pm
Aiiiii, i know what this is! :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on April 30, 2011, 04:40:52 pm
Aiiiii, tell us! NAOW!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 30, 2011, 05:02:06 pm
Something that I am having a difficult time getting with a bow or cav, alas...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: VicTheBear on April 30, 2011, 05:06:58 pm
Interesting...

I haven't seen it either, and I'm an archer. Thanks to the new slot stuff I haven't carried a melee weapon for more than a round or two.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on April 30, 2011, 06:11:28 pm
I wonder what the fuss is about.

It's self explanatory, isn't it?

(oh and it works for ranged too)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on April 30, 2011, 06:14:46 pm
Got it here aswell.

What we CAN confirm, its good. Just to know what :).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Leesin on April 30, 2011, 06:23:13 pm
Can someone who knows what it does post in here and confirm, figuring things out is boring and is rarely 100% accurate.  :lol:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Socrates on April 30, 2011, 06:41:08 pm
I got it myself, but since it was presented in pink text I thought it was an admin playing around with us.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on April 30, 2011, 07:17:42 pm
Isn't pretty obvious? You did well (killed x amount of players in this life, good k:d, killed y players in z time etc.) and thus the weapon and armour you are currently wearing is boosted. Pretty sure that it is a temporarily boost, like, till you die again or something.

AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! CHANGE THE ENGLISH TO BRITISH ENGLISH AND NOT AMERICAN ENGLISH! I normally don't give a flying fuck on a holy three, but 14th century English with AMERICAN spelling? SHAME ON YOU!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on April 30, 2011, 07:19:58 pm
it's actually permanent, even after retirement

and what is wrong with the english?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Opium.dk on April 30, 2011, 07:23:39 pm
Does this message show up in purple?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bokuzen on April 30, 2011, 07:24:55 pm
Just tell us chadz :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: kongxinga on April 30, 2011, 07:45:45 pm
Hopefully whatever this is, it applies to horses as well, but I am not holding my breath given the general attitudes towards them.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on April 30, 2011, 07:47:58 pm
yes, horses too. if it's alive and used, that is.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jambi on April 30, 2011, 07:57:03 pm
Hmm...

Waht teh 'ell is taht?

(click to show/hide)


the part with "All..."

You guys....

If an Admin alt-Tabs you see this message.

Go on a heavy Admin infested leech server like Defend the Village.

Everytime you see that message an Admin or Developer has Leech Charged - Alt tabbed - And is fapping until the round is over  :P  Pefect timing to TK that naked peasant unnoticed  :idea:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on April 30, 2011, 08:08:51 pm
it's actually permanent, even after retirement

and what is wrong with the english?
Armour and not armor. One is British and the other is American. Normally you can choose which one you want to use, as long as you keep to that language (no mixing British and American English) but this is supposed to be Ye Olde English, which has the British grammar rules. (armour, colour etc.)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Xol! on April 30, 2011, 08:15:27 pm
You guys....

If an Admin alt-Tabs you see this message.

Go on a heavy Admin infested leech server like Defend the Village.

Everytime you see that message an Admin or Developer has Leech Charged - Alt tabbed - And is fapping until the round is over  :P  Pefect timing to TK that naked peasant unnoticed  :idea:

nobody tell him.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Sir_Ironlake on April 30, 2011, 08:25:38 pm
huh is alt tabing penalized?

I often alt tab AFTER death, to come back immediatly when round over sound is played...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Xol! on April 30, 2011, 08:27:33 pm
huh is alt tabing penalized?

I often alt tab AFTER death, to come back immediatly when round over sound is played...

:|

this isn't what this topic is about at all.

even a little.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on April 30, 2011, 09:08:24 pm
Guys, what we now atm:

- That purple text is something good
- It is permanent
- It is caused by doing something during round (killing enough people etc.)

What I (we?) want to know:

- What exactly do we have to do to get that message
- What exactly does it give
- Is it applied only when we i.e. kill given amount of people in one round or in few rounds (maybe even few maps)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 30, 2011, 09:11:14 pm
I had 9 kills and two deaths and was at the top of my leaderboard at end of map rotation, I wonder if this needs a 5 K/D ration, or like 15 kills or something...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: WaltF4 on April 30, 2011, 09:19:40 pm
You also shot at least 2 teammates to death that map... Not that I can claim to have done much better...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 30, 2011, 09:28:09 pm
You also shot at least 2 teammates to death that map... Not that I can claim to have done much better...

Hmm, I thought that was the map where I was 8 and 3, but yes. I have been TKing way too much today, the warbow seems to shoot a little different now.

EDIT: Actually yes I do remember shooting two teammates to death in that match...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on April 30, 2011, 09:28:47 pm
I got it yesterday around the same time I hit 31 so I thought it was something involving me leveling or getting close to leveling, but then with the roll-back I'm now level 30 again so I don't know if my character right now 'has' whatever I gained or not since I don't know when I received it.

I do know that I was doing fairly well in that round or around that time... I got it while I was alive, don't remember if I got it right after I killed someone or what.

My guesses - maybe some permanent wpf improvement or slight stat boost to the item I used?

Meh, hopefully someone will find out soon, I'm very curious!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rumblood on April 30, 2011, 09:44:14 pm
Armour and not armor. One is British and the other is American. Normally you can choose which one you want to use, as long as you keep to that language (no mixing British and American English) but this is supposed to be Ye Olde English, which has the British grammar rules. (armour, colour etc.)

Americans borrow from other cultures and give it back after we have improved upon it. Enjoy your properly spelled words!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Fkpuz on April 30, 2011, 09:54:25 pm
if it's based on kdr then all the high gen super blockers are just going to run even more rampant.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: wayyyyyne on April 30, 2011, 10:07:37 pm
I didn't get this message yet but if I had to take a wild guess what i does/how it is triggered I'd say it could be something like:

- every time you block/land three attacks in a row there's a chance of 0.01% for this event to trigger.
-depending on whether you stabbed/swung or blocked a stab/swing, the weapon/armo(u)r/whatever gets +1 swing/thrust damage/2 armo(u)r points

It would favo(u)r players like Phyrex or Goretooth too much if it was based on your k/d ratio. It has to be some kind of random event.
If I'm at least somewhat right with my assumption I'd be happy my over nerfed MW german great sword could be useful again if I manage to trigger this event a few times  :lol:

Is it can be changelog release time nao, chadz?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Paul on April 30, 2011, 11:04:23 pm
LoL, armor instead of armour. The old english is faulty as well I think. chadz sucks.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: PhantomZero on April 30, 2011, 11:12:38 pm
It can't be based on KDR because I got it while 3 in 4 running around during a siege.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Braeden on April 30, 2011, 11:16:51 pm
chadz! Provide numbers! How can I min/max without them!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Konrax on April 30, 2011, 11:17:12 pm
This sounds really cool, can anyone confirm changes to their characters/items after one of these occurrences?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kalam on April 30, 2011, 11:21:09 pm
chadz! Provide numbers! How can I min/max without them!

Psht. Everyone knows all cRPG players are secretly D&D players. Besides, 18/18 is for the boring!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dach on April 30, 2011, 11:27:12 pm
Wild guess here!!

I think it give a reduce upkeep on some item.  :o

 :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Leesin on April 30, 2011, 11:34:03 pm
Not that I personally disagree or agree with this kind of idea, I just don't see why someone who knows can't just write it out in plain text for all to see. It's obviously a good bonus that can be applied to even horses apparently, but does this bonus continue to stack on such things? does it mean no-lifers can gain an advantage if this does stack?.

Yeah, I'm just beating a dead horse, because we all know the only way we'll ever find out 100% what it does is by someone who knows, i.e a cRPG team member, posting it on here, which probably wont happen as usual.  :lol:

EDIT: That's a good idea Dach +1, it could very well be!, I'm going to write down my repair costs for items and if I get that message I will track the costs.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Ravendark on May 01, 2011, 12:45:47 am
Hmm, the text suggests a connection between event and the gear you are wearing. chadz words can be taken for honeyed wine, praise chadz, so the bonus is permanent.

Ergo, its a bonus that applies to you when wearing some, or all, of your current gear. No thoughts on type of bonus pt.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: mulas on May 01, 2011, 01:00:28 am
Does it applies in seiges? I was top score 70 kills 13 deaths, and I had a 15 kills streak, I don't think I get that msg, although I didn't pay attention.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Havoco on May 01, 2011, 01:09:03 am
I think it is a decrease in upkeep over an amount of time of using the same gear.

OR, it could be not using any heirlooms over a certain amount of time, too.
I just know I was playing a custom map on CRPG Na and at the beginning of the round (close to gaining a level.) that's when I got it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Ravendark on May 01, 2011, 01:34:43 am
With a thought to the bonus: Text mentions both arms and armour so a reduction in upkeep seems plausible since upkeep is all that all items have strictly in common. Still, it hardly makes much(but a little) sense that experience with a given combination of gear should pay off like that.
Imo a "set-bonus" kinda thing is possible, providing advantages with current gear when all is weared. It certaintly is realistic that a fighter should be more proficient with a set of items after breaking it in. Following that line of thought I'm thinking a reduction of the wpf-penalty from armor. In this case weapons would not be directly affected but are atill neccesary for set-bonus.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kafein on May 01, 2011, 01:54:05 am
Well, probably it's just nothing. It states that you have a better understanding of weapons and armor, so it is rather linked to the player. Happens given some esoteric reason and has no effect apart from general craze about it.

That would be what I personally expect from chadz here. Furthermore, everything he said about it is correct  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Havoco on May 01, 2011, 02:17:55 am
Dravic do a screenshot of the upkeep on your tempered nuiedao after you get that. If its lower than 302g, it's an upkeep bonus.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: EponiCo on May 01, 2011, 03:08:12 am
Well, probably it's just nothing. It states that you have a better understanding of weapons and armor, so it is rather linked to the player. Happens given some esoteric reason and has no effect apart from general craze about it.

That would be what I personally expect from chadz here. Furthermore, everything he said about it is correct  :mrgreen:

Wow, that would be some pretty weird wise mentor stuff actually.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on May 01, 2011, 03:36:07 am
Whatever the feature is I think I like it :)

It is cool to have some bonuses that do not require retiring, it is not everyones cup of tea. Even if we do not know exactly what it is.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Patricia on May 01, 2011, 03:47:16 am
You failed the meme.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 01, 2011, 03:48:59 am
Besides, 18/18 is for the boring!
Hey!
 :mad:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on May 01, 2011, 03:58:49 am
You failed the meme.

Lies :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: okiN on May 01, 2011, 04:03:27 am
Lies :P

No, it's true. You kept the typo but failed on the wonky grammar.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on May 01, 2011, 04:03:48 am
Would you take a look at this?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: okiN on May 01, 2011, 04:04:41 am
At what, now?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 01, 2011, 04:08:21 am
We can also just play without it, having the bonus. Or find it out.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Havoco on May 01, 2011, 04:20:39 am
You know people are curious about it. And if we do find it out there will surely be abusers of it too.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShovelFace on May 01, 2011, 06:14:01 am
it happens every time your total kills on the database excede your total deaths?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: PhantomZero on May 01, 2011, 06:26:54 am
I dont think so, i've always had a positive ratio.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShovelFace on May 01, 2011, 06:59:43 am
Perhaps the thresh hold is higher like 2x your death rate or so. it makes sense in a siege because your kdr is constantly bouncing up and down
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zanthos on May 01, 2011, 07:27:31 am
I'm fairly certain it has nothing to do with kills in a round, map, series of maps, or your overall K/D. Today, one of our members had this message pop up. He was playing well but he wasn't on any sort of killing rampage.

During a run of good luck tonight I went 10-0 in a couple of rounds and had some nice kill totals for the entire map. Over that run of luck I went from level 23 to 26. I never got the message. If it's linked to something in leveling or k:d, I haven't seen it yet and I'm sure I won't luck into better rounds than tonight.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on May 01, 2011, 09:09:24 am
Zanthos, do you switch out your armor and weapons fairly regularly? Since the message mentions being good with your armor and weapons, I'd assume its tied to the use of specific items. I'd like to know if Goretooth has gotten the message, since he tends to kill half the team each round and has worn the same loadout for the last few days.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Paul on May 01, 2011, 09:19:55 am
I saw the code but I don't know what it does.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Siiem on May 01, 2011, 09:25:49 am
Is this the fabled bonus to the wpf of your current weapon usage?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on May 01, 2011, 12:18:08 pm
Paul, but the code should at least tell you, what do we HAVE to do to get this message. Tell us!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Osiris on May 01, 2011, 12:31:59 pm
I got this message as an archer... I had 1-1 at the time and was being chased. I shot the guy ran turned shot ran turned shot ran Then i got the msg and i didnt even kill him O.o
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on May 01, 2011, 02:11:15 pm
With a thought to the bonus: Text mentions both arms and armour so a reduction in upkeep seems plausible since upkeep is all that all items have strictly in common. Still, it hardly makes much(but a little) sense that experience with a given combination of gear should pay off like that.
Imo a "set-bonus" kinda thing is possible, providing advantages with current gear when all is weared. It certaintly is realistic that a fighter should be more proficient with a set of items after breaking it in. Following that line of thought I'm thinking a reduction of the wpf-penalty from armor. In this case weapons would not be directly affected but are atill neccesary for set-bonus.
This would make perfect sense. Gah! I wanna know! Almighty chadz! Please share your divine knowledge with us!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Perceval on May 01, 2011, 02:16:47 pm
Got it! after a killing streak, but that wasn't related apparently.
no change in stats, upkeep is the exact same. WHAT DOES IT DO?

also i do tend to wear my default gear pretty much all the time.

EDIT:
[08:30] <@chadz|afk> it's an attempt to go away from the excel-min-maxing, towards a roleplaying game
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zanthos on May 01, 2011, 04:54:26 pm
Zanthos, do you switch out your armor and weapons fairly regularly? Since the message mentions being good with your armor and weapons, I'd assume its tied to the use of specific items. I'd like to know if Goretooth has gotten the message, since he tends to kill half the team each round and has worn the same loadout for the last few days.


Nope, I don't change items much on this build. I wore the same exact setup almost all night with exception for maybe 4 rounds in total where I went into heavy gear mode with a x5. Considering I played way too much... 4 rounds out of the total is not a lot.

One of our members got this message while he was simply running out of the spawn. He had changed his gear only slightly at times... but that was it. He said he didn't see a change in all of his items though only a couple. Still can't figure it out :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 01, 2011, 05:55:43 pm
Got it! after a killing streak, but that wasn't related apparently.
no change in stats, upkeep is the exact same. WHAT DOES IT DO?

also i do tend to wear my default gear pretty much all the time.

EDIT:
[08:30] <@chadz|afk> it's an attempt to go away from the excel-min-maxing, towards a roleplaying game

I think 2 things of this:

1. The bonus is fake, and makes you think you have a bonus.
2. The bonus is real, but it's impossible to find out what the bonus is, thus, you can say you have a bonus, saying you are better in /things/.

Not sure how to explain it, but, it might be or not be the difference between 1 hit less to kill/to get killed.

TL;DR Live with it, and enjoy you have a bonus.

Atleast, that's what i think about that statement.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 01, 2011, 06:14:08 pm
It will be revealed.. in time.

For the time being I can drop you get another carrot:
Try to concentrate the bonus on the same set.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tor! on May 01, 2011, 06:28:54 pm
It will be revealed.. in time.

For the time being I can drop you get another carrot:
Try to concentrate the bonus on the same set.

This is intruiging.. so keeping the same weapon / armor set makes it lighter, cheaper, better or something?  :rolleyes: hopefully it wont take to long until we know for sure
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 01, 2011, 06:31:10 pm
It will be revealed.. in time.

For the time being I can drop you get another carrot:
Try to concentrate the bonus on the same set.

I can not wait for strat', and I love the patch, and I respect the time you put into this mod, but seriously...

You keep dropping the same carrot when you talk about strat'. I look forward to it, but "soon" may as well be Meow time for all we know.

take care, and thanks again for the patch.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on May 01, 2011, 06:44:51 pm
It will be revealed.. in time.

For the time being I can drop you get another carrot:
Try to concentrate the bonus on the same set.

That carrot...

Then, if I had a really cheap clothes on me, is there any sense for me to wear it? it was blue tunic, Tempered Niuweidao, (blue) hood, Leather Khergit Boots, Leather Gloves. So really cheap, bad set.

Just tell me, if there is any point of continuing running with this set just to get higher "bonus"? Or I should just forget about it and change to more reasonable set, such as Lamellar Vest etc.?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 01, 2011, 06:48:26 pm
Blegh, I use the exact same gear for my main and never switch it out.

Is there a way to check if you have it, in case you missed the message?

I am not asking what it does exactly, all I want to know is, can I verify (with 100% satisfaction) that I have it somehow once I get it? Yes/No/Hate_you?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 01, 2011, 06:55:54 pm
EDIT:
[08:30] <@chadz|afk> it's an attempt to go away from the excel-min-maxing, towards a roleplaying game

Excel-min-maxing IS the nature of roleplaying games.  Pretty much all of them that have stats and math period.  RPG's were created by geeks, for geeks and mathematical min-maxing/number crunching has always been at the heart and soul of them.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: okiN on May 01, 2011, 06:59:14 pm
Only for some of the players, and while stats and such were always a part of it, they weren't the original point, but rather a framework that the RP experience was built around. Munchkins came with RPGs, but RPGs weren't created just for munchkins.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rumblood on May 01, 2011, 08:06:21 pm
Munchkins are loveable!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tydeus on May 01, 2011, 09:45:18 pm
It will be revealed.. in time.

For the time being I can drop you get another carrot:
Try to concentrate the bonus on the same set.
You say "try to concentrate the bonus on the same set" Then I would ask, What are the boots that are part of the Churburg Cuirass/Hourglass gauntlets/Hounskull Bascinet set? I've done some research but none of the boots in-game appear to be of the proper set. Also, is that the only helmet of the "set?".

Or am I taking this all wrong and nothing I'm stating here is what you meant by "set"?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 01, 2011, 10:01:50 pm
You say "try to concentrate the bonus on the same set" Then I would ask, What are the boots that are part of the Churburg Cuirass/Hourglass gauntlets/Hounskull Bascinet set? I've done some research but none of the boots in-game appear to be of the proper set. Also, is that the only helmet of the "set?".

Or am I taking this all wrong and nothing I'm stating here is what you meant by "set"?

We'll just have to wait and let carrots grow. Or WaltF4 will somehow find it out.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: wormfood on May 01, 2011, 10:57:51 pm
We'll just have to wait and let carrots grow. Or WaltF4 will somehow find it out.
Lol, I'm no doubt WaltF4 is currently leading a team of scientists on that problem right now.

I think that message and riddle is there only to distract us from the fact that strategus isn't up yet.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dach on May 01, 2011, 11:04:13 pm
hmmm, i'm running around in the light strange armor set at all time with a katana...

Still didn't get the message...  :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zanthos on May 01, 2011, 11:33:44 pm
You say "try to concentrate the bonus on the same set" Then I would ask, What are the boots that are part of the Churburg Cuirass/Hourglass gauntlets/Hounskull Bascinet set? I've done some research but none of the boots in-game appear to be of the proper set. Also, is that the only helmet of the "set?".

Or am I taking this all wrong and nothing I'm stating here is what you meant by "set"?

I thought the same thing. When I hear "set" I think of the Diablo style sets which means I need to figure out exactly what boots to wear with what chest piece, etc... then continue wearing them for a period of time.

Right now, I have what I consider to be items that look good together in terms of roleplay and style. I'm still loosing a bit of money wearing the outfit, but changing to lower grade gloves or helm detracts from the overall look, so I deal with it until I "must" go light to save money. Even wearing this outfit for the very vast majority of my rounds, I have not received the message. We've had people get it while playing much less with more variety in their outfits... so right now it's very confusing to me and the carrots are not helping much.

Right now it makes me wonder if I am hurting myself by wearing what I personally think looks correct in terms of roleplay or if I need to stick with a "set" as declared in the game. Either way, it makes me think I may have to force myself to wear stuff that maybe I don't want to. I'm hoping that's not the case because most of us in TS tend to lean towards a specific look to fit our lineage.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Belhade on May 01, 2011, 11:40:05 pm
I do the same thing Zanthos, cobble together sets for my own style  regardless of actual characteristics. I was hoping that chadz meant "sets" as in what you wear regularly, not what may be designated a "set" in the game.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 02, 2011, 12:04:55 am
I'm pretty sure he DOES mean what you wear regularly.

I wear, pretty much without fail:
Klappvisor
Tribal Warrior outfit
Grey Wisby gloves
Leather boots

*insert weapons here*

I've received that message about 8 times now.  So I'm pretty sure it does mean your personal "sets" of gear.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: mulas on May 02, 2011, 12:47:30 am
I'm pretty sure he DOES mean what you wear regularly.

I wear, pretty much without fail:
Klappvisor
Tribal Warrior outfit
Grey Wisby gloves
Leather boots

*insert weapons here*

I've received that message about 8 times now.  So I'm pretty sure it does mean your personal "sets" of gear.

Do you think it effects weapons too, or just armor?

This is why people hate chadz, tell us already so we can prepare, what an ass.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zanthos on May 02, 2011, 12:50:41 am
8 times? I've been playing like a typical no lifer after the patch this weekend and I've only changed my helm and backup weapon out of my "sets" - everything else the same. I'm considering taking off my helm completely to save money but it sounds like by the path we've been led on this bonus is that changing items out hurts your chance of the bonus... which makes me think I should keep it on.

I'm not so sure that's all there is to it unless you are joking about 8 times or my adjustment of helm or secondary weapon over the last couple days completely killed my chances of it.

I'm wearing without fail:
Nordic Huscarl Helm
Kuyak Chest
Rus Boots
Mail Gauntlets
Heavy Lance
Destrier
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 02, 2011, 12:52:41 am
No, I'm not joking.

Might be weapons, but I always use the same weapons too:

2her -
MW Warcleaver (before it was stolen by the evil bug)

1her -
Military Cleaver
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zanthos on May 02, 2011, 12:54:05 am
there's gotta be something else triggering it then... of my items, my chest is heirloomed once, heavy lance 3 times, the rest isn't at all. I'm going to just say screw it, go to my fur hat to keep my character how I want it to look overall but reduce cost, drop my side weapon, and hope someone else figures it out.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 02, 2011, 01:45:55 am
You say "try to concentrate the bonus on the same set" Then I would ask, What are the boots that are part of the Churburg Cuirass/Hourglass gauntlets/Hounskull Bascinet set? I've done some research but none of the boots in-game appear to be of the proper set. Also, is that the only helmet of the "set?".

Or am I taking this all wrong and nothing I'm stating here is what you meant by "set"?

I am thinking that he means your loadout set, not a particular armor set.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 02, 2011, 04:21:31 am
I have been wearing the same armor set for a few days now the Kayuk (42 armor one,) leather gloves, pigface Klappvisier, mail chausses, lance, and powerful poleaxe with a palfrey and I have got the message twice (frist time was with the heavy lance changed to the lance today and got the message a round in.) But all in all I think it changes your WPF prove me wrong since this is just a suggestion and I don't remember having 126 in polearms perhaps this is what it is?  :shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 02, 2011, 04:36:18 am
I dunno, prepatch I had about 139 wpf and after I had 140 for some odd reason (Now it is 150 something due to leveling), but that may have been due to the plague of glitches that my main has been subjected to.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: EponiCo on May 02, 2011, 04:47:49 am
Omg I got it too finally. But I did nothing at all.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Baggy on May 02, 2011, 05:00:30 am
I got it in duel
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 02, 2011, 05:37:59 am
I got it in duel

How did the duel happen?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kalam on May 02, 2011, 08:11:51 am
I got it in duel

Same here, and my duel set isn't the same as my website loadout.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Perceval on May 02, 2011, 01:21:02 pm
there can sometimes be a quite long delay syncronising between the game server and the crpg database. If its triggered by some game event (could be the case since both gorath and gorethooth are good players and they got the message multiple times), you could get the message a few seconds/minutes(?) later. It`s also likely that there some randomness in it to keep us guessing.

So far i'm very happy about this - one thing i like alot about crpg is to be able to recognize people by their outfit.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Malaclypse on May 02, 2011, 01:29:08 pm
Just got this in siege, not sure what it did.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Turkhammer on May 02, 2011, 07:19:32 pm


AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! CHANGE THE ENGLISH TO BRITISH ENGLISH AND NOT AMERICAN ENGLISH! I normally don't give a flying fuck on a holy three, but 14th century English with AMERICAN spelling? SHAME ON YOU!

No need to scream.  Also if it was in 14th century English you wouldn't even be able to read it.  (Try reading Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in the original English).
Besides British English is so inefficient, with adding all the extraneous letters.  Spelling it the proper way saves an unneeded u, thereby conserving zeros and ones.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: FromDust on May 03, 2011, 10:15:34 am
  Received it yesterday in the DTV mode. I do not think that it is based on K / D. If so, it will be easy to get by abooze fake duel. Rather, it's about time games in the same set of armor. A bonus is just for wearing all subjects who were wearing at the time of receiving the bonus. Something like the set +1, +2, +3.
Or just (not) funny joke  :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaldRider on May 03, 2011, 04:11:11 pm
Tell us  :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 03, 2011, 05:24:58 pm
yeah, doubt it has anything to do with kills and deaths, because i usually always have good kills with minimum deaths, i played yesterday for most of the day in the same gear and i still haven't seen this message, we'll see what today brings, i feel left out... :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Nemeth on May 03, 2011, 05:53:37 pm
yeah, doubt it has anything to do with kills and deaths, because i usually always have good kills with minimum deaths, i played yesterday for most of the day in the same gear and i still haven't seen this message, we'll see what today brings, i feel left out... :(

You're a merc, you should be left out  :twisted:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Siiem on May 03, 2011, 05:55:42 pm
You're a merc, you should be left out  :twisted:

I can't belive I have to remind you AGAIN...
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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Thovex on May 03, 2011, 06:01:21 pm
Nemeth, take your cleaning kit and get back to shining my shoes, not his.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 03, 2011, 06:08:50 pm
yeah, doubt it has anything to do with kills and deaths, because i usually always have good kills with minimum deaths, i played yesterday for most of the day in the same gear and i still haven't seen this message, we'll see what today brings, i feel left out... :(

theres a random component
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on May 03, 2011, 06:09:14 pm
Mine needs a shining too. They touched Sieem...

All joking aside. I think what chadz meant with a set is that the bonus is applied to your equipment so if you change a lot then your gonna have boosted equipment that you don't use. So if you stay with one set then they get all the boosts and thus gets stronger.

EDIT: OOOH chadz is here! Finally time for the Great Reveal!?!?!?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 03, 2011, 06:11:06 pm
I think what chadz meant with a set is that the bonus is applied to your equipment so if you change a lot then your gonna have boosted equipment that you don't use. So if you stay with one set then they get all the boosts and thus gets stronger.

closest one so far :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on May 03, 2011, 06:45:29 pm
chadz, lets make this interesting. The first to get it right gets a free heirloom, respec and lvl 35! :D

Doitdoitdoitdoitdoit!

Also here is the info so far and what I think they mean:
Feel free to figure it out, that one is a secret :)

(protip: getting that message is a very, very, good thing)
It's a positive thing and we have to figure it out ourself (duh)
theres a random component
It has a random chance to happen. BUT! He says component so there are other factors that also trigger it. People are saying they get it after playing good, so it is based on KD, No TK, No FF, Dealt lot of damage (to enemy) or any mix of these.
For the time being I can drop you get another carrot:
Try to concentrate the bonus on the same set.
Since he said my last post was "closest one so far" I'm gonna say the same thing here. The bonus/boost/whatever is given to your equipment (weapon, armour, horse) and not your character. That doesn't mean it's not a wpf bonus or anything, but you have to use that equipment to get that bonus (whatever it is).
I wonder what the fuss is about.

It's self explanatory, isn't it?

(oh and it works for ranged too)
1. it works for ranged, 2 it should be pretty obvious to figure out. After having read some of the replies here, I can see a lot of stupid suggestions so it might be that easy to figure out anyway (at least for people without my 1337 deduction skillz).

Anyway the text reads "All thine hard work payeth off. Thou now hast a better understanding of the weapons in thine arms and armor on thy skin"

It says we have a better "understanding" of our weapons and armour. This COULD be a lower requirement in the equipment, that would make sense (since you get used to it) although I guess that will only help for when you respec, as you need to already be able to use it before you get your bonus.
it's actually permanent, even after retirement
Basically we keep the bonus even after retirement. Thus it would also be possible that it is the lower requirement thingy, but it can still be any of the other possible bonuses.
yes, horses too. if it's alive and used, that is.
It applies to ALL equipment and not just weapons and armour (as it says in the text). So it can apply to your headgear, torso, boots, gloves, weapons, ammo, horse, shield etc.

So. Is this a good recap of what we know/think? Did I hit jackpot with any of my thought chadz? At least tell me what parts are completely and utterly wrong? (PM if you want to keep it from the others too)

Damn, I love me some riddles and mysteries!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Camaris on May 03, 2011, 06:59:26 pm
So. Is this a good recap of what we know/think? Did I hit jackpot with any of my thought chadz? At least tell me what parts are completely and utterly wrong? (PM if you want to keep it from the others too)

Damn, I love me some riddles and mysteries!

Or PM it to everybody else to keep him riddling forever ;)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 03, 2011, 07:01:15 pm
Or PM it to everybody else to keep him riddling forever ;)

I forsee a lot of forum mutes...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gristle on May 03, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
So it's some way to increase stats on items you are currently wearing when it happens. It's a random, low chance check every so often (every map? hour? day?), with the chance possibly slightly increased if you are doing well at the time.

It's kind of like an alternate to heirlooming. Heirlooming is currently a small bonus, but you can plan on getting it. We're not sure how good this new system's upgrades are (no one has noticed an increase on the in-game item stats?), but it is potentially more frequent than getting an heirloom, and we're not sure how many times it can happen to a particular piece of gear.

This seems a lot like Team Fortress 2 when the item finding system was first introduced. You had a very small chance of getting a random item every hour or so. Some people could play for days and get maybe one thing, while some lucky people would get something every hour.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 03, 2011, 07:33:59 pm
damn me for getting this that 1 gen i go archer... now i won't benefit from the bonus :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ThePoopy on May 03, 2011, 07:39:35 pm
do this apply to wep/armor you used much prepatch too?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 03, 2011, 07:44:21 pm
Hah, seeing as I've lost all other weapon except my katana to the patch(nodachi(too high requirement, I have 15str) and pike(not sheathable) no longer wieldable). I'm down to 1 weapon I use and the same old lamellar vest. I actually get some benefit from this. Assuming we've deciphered chadz correctly.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 03, 2011, 07:46:32 pm
Since it's permanent and is focused on your 'set' it has to involve your equipment, especially considering the whole 'understanding of thine arms ' stuff.

So yeah, best guess in my mind is something about your active equipment (armor, weapons, mount etc) is getting a slight boost (+armor, speed, maybe less requirements to wear or less upkeep?) is being permanently added to stuff.  Like someone said, maybe an alternate to heirlooming.

The big question is a) is it being shown on equipment or is it hidden?  b) what triggers it exactly? 

It would be cool if it lowers requirements to wear items.. the set you normally wear then 'becomes' your usual set even if you retire and are low level normally.

DAMN JOO MYSTERIES!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Ledrion on May 03, 2011, 07:52:34 pm
chadz talked about wanting to do this a while back in the forums. Never heard much else till now. I liked the idea back then and glad you put it in.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaldRider on May 03, 2011, 07:53:40 pm
Does it only apply when you're wearing all the items you wore when you got it, or does it apply when I'm "breaking" my set by, say, switching boots?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 03, 2011, 07:55:37 pm
Does it only apply when you're wearing all the items you wore when you got it, or does it apply when I'm "breaking" my set by, say, switching boots?

good question.. and does it also apply to the armor that you are not using but have ie. on your back? if so, is that particular weapon then also required for the bonus to take effect?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kelugarn on May 03, 2011, 07:59:50 pm
I got this message once a day into the patch, but at the time I was only wearing leather gloves and blue hose and wielding a long hafted spiked mace. I haven't noticed any difference, seeing as how my set up at the time is 14g in repairs and 0 weight but hopefully I can get it again.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Vibe on May 03, 2011, 08:04:37 pm
Maybe it reduces upkeep?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: leviatan on May 03, 2011, 08:06:32 pm
Maybe it reduces weight, or increases speed? If you understand your equipment better, you might be more maneauverable in it, just an odd guess..
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on May 03, 2011, 08:12:10 pm
Since no response from chadz, I guess my earlier guess is still the closest one. Maybe we should work out from that? Better than searching in the dark...

Quote
I think what chadz meant with a set is that the bonus is applied to your equipment so if you change a lot then your gonna have boosted equipment that you don't use. So if you stay with one set then they get all the boosts and thus gets stronger.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: PhantomZero on May 03, 2011, 08:28:29 pm
Any way to tell what stuff is boosted? I can't really remember what I was using when I got it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 03, 2011, 08:36:33 pm
Any way to tell what stuff is boosted? I can't really remember what I was using when I got it.

Nope. Just like you are better fit with a [EXAMPLE] great long axe instead of a german poleaxe, it doesn't show anything. Just gotta remember it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: VicTheBear on May 03, 2011, 09:27:55 pm
Maybe it's just a temp hp buff. But didn't someone say they got it while they were dead?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 03, 2011, 09:32:12 pm
I don't know if it's been posted or not because I'm too lazy to fucking read the topic like a normal person =(

I got this message while using my pike (I had my armor, pike, and awlpike in my inventory). Masterwork pike, balanced awlpike. When I got the message, no changes ingame. However, on the site, it says I now have a tempered awlpike despite not actually using it for combat. I might remove the awlpike and see if I can upgrade some of my armor, assuming this isn't just a 1 time only thing.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 03, 2011, 09:33:10 pm
Maybe it's just a temp hp buff. But didn't someone say they got it while they were dead?

Whatever it is, chadz said that it was permanent and would carry on through future generations.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: leviatan on May 03, 2011, 09:38:56 pm
I don't know if it's been posted or not because I'm too lazy to fucking read the topic like a normal person =(

I got this message while using my pike (I had my armor, pike, and awlpike in my inventory). Masterwork pike, balanced awlpike. When I got the message, no changes ingame. However, on the site, it says I now have a tempered awlpike despite not actually using it for combat. I might remove the awlpike and see if I can upgrade some of my armor, assuming this isn't just a 1 time only thing.

ehm, isnt balanced better than tempered? or am I a noob as usual :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: RandomDude on May 03, 2011, 10:29:52 pm
i think i knows what it is but....

the answer will come - soon!

Or im wrong and stupid :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Native_ATS on May 03, 2011, 10:32:19 pm
it just takes away the neg wpf you get form wearing heavey gear
i mean what ells could it be with out braking the game?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 03, 2011, 10:48:45 pm
it just takes away the neg wpf you get form wearing heavey gear
i mean what ells could it be with out braking the game?
Alright, but what determines when you get the bonus, and how long does the bonus last?

I got the message again today and noticed no new "heirloomed" items, so maybe automatically heirlooming something is just a bug (It doesn't show up ingame after all)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 03, 2011, 10:51:38 pm
it's actually permanent, even after retirement
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Banok on May 03, 2011, 11:49:12 pm
it just takes away the neg wpf you get form wearing heavey gear
i mean what ells could it be with out braking the game?

that sounds plausible. but not very exciting.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 03, 2011, 11:51:11 pm
Little do you know...


It is a leveling mechanism. The better you are, the more likely that this triggers, right? And chadz said ti was permanent right?

So basically, you get a permanent -1 wpf when using that outfit every time you get that message.

Yup.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Trael on May 04, 2011, 01:15:33 am
Excel-min-maxing IS the nature of roleplaying games.  Pretty much all of them that have stats and math period.  RPG's were created by geeks, for geeks and mathematical min-maxing/number crunching has always been at the heart and soul of them.
Only crappy ones are dominated by it. Better ones are dominated by creativity, logic and ability to connect things and see everything as possibility. Oh and ones not giving freedom are not Rpg's, they are just some other games using some "excel-min-maxy" statsystems and trying to yell how they are all about playing role even when they are not... for example (approximately 100 percently) every single computer 'rpg'... :P

Not to say that proper roleplaying games could not or should not potentially have nice extra spice or flavour of being able to minmax something or that potentially breakable system that could allow completely irrationally broken and absolutely hillarious minmaxings in its simulation of world cant be amusing or even working and balanced as long as people keep sanity in and prefer theoretical knowlenge of all possible gamebreaking as art instead of something they have to use. :D

</derail>

Oh gotten that message atleast once. And to those who keep wondering, char generation k/d is still <1, back then if i remember right i was having quite nice rounds. Also i do change my equipment quite often between couple of sets i find nice feeling (wizard and couple of other sets based on 'stats may be terrible, but with this i every now and then just utterly rule in combat' and couple of haha heavy armor to scare all those agibuilds, maybe long maul to scare all those shieldusers).

So im guessing quite high random element. Possible changes that are not directly visible to user (might even be stat changes, who knows if game wont display it to us and getting has random element, where would we know if something would even get some stat changed + considering that heirloom statchanges are quite small these days, even if it would be direct hidden statchange it would most likely be quite small, small enough not to be spotted in normal play without knowing, its not like we could say definitive difference between level of heirlooming without seeing item name.)

What comes to C-mans comment about using same gears, most likely stacking or once per item (but have all items of your used 100% of time set to have this) kind of thing, most likely. Meaning that using same items will have bigger change of landing that on items person ends up using at same time (if for example system goes with event triggering and after that game choosing randomly one of equipped items as target).

Whatever it is, it does not seem to be something meant to be mechanically used in planned way by players, just some nice bonus or so. Meaning that atleast im not planning on loosing my nightsleep just wondering how is precious power of powergaming going to change or so, I have found that set of items that feels cool works better in crpg that items that have powergamed stats anyways.

Only thing i would be interrested, if given answer to small question about matter, would be: When hinted that it can target ranged or horse also and that one could benefit from using same items to possibly collect these to them, it hints that this possibly targets pieces of gear & when said its permanent and will carry over retiring...
question would be: is it permanent to item type or single piece of item, aka if it targets single item (kind of like heirloom) is it possible to loose this 'permanent' thing by accidentally selling said item or will it for example be back if player buys new one of same item.

C-man nice playing with playerbase :D
I still like theory that its just there to give permanent boost of morale to player from belief "It told me that im better and i have bonus, so i must have bonus, see i can allready feel how my gaming has improved" :P

<oh and tinfoilhat people feeding>
Well lately my felt hat multiplied in my inventory, on website i have one of those, in game menu i had 2 of those... but really im guessing completely nonconnected databasefail or so.. sold felt hat and both are gone from lists... going to buy new one to have hat for my lovely wizard suit without it taking 2 boxes from ingame inventory.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 04, 2011, 01:27:43 am
well, today was a good day for me on crpg, still haven't seen this yet, i wonder what the random component is then... :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 04, 2011, 08:04:46 am
Only crappy ones are dominated by it. Better ones are dominated by creativity, logic and ability to connect things and see everything as possibility.

My opinion comes from a childhood of playing:
Chainmail
D&D, 1st ed, revised, 2nd ed, 3rd ed
Shadowrun
Palladium
Rifts
Nightbane and many other Palladium systems
Gurps
Steampunk
Cyberpunk
Dabbling in a few others here and there

I wasn't even talking about computer/video game RPG's, which are hardly RPG's in anything but numerical mechanics almost every time (some have good stories, and the original NWN was probably the best crpg ever given player created/run persistant worlds).  Still, at their core, they are a mathematical system begging to be min/maxed, used and abused, exploited and ravaged.  Otherwise we wouldn't have RPG "systems" and would still be outside playing pretend without dice or books.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Punisher on May 04, 2011, 09:19:45 am
Sadly or not, mathematical min/maxing is the core of any RPG. I remember when we didn't even have a calculator and I was planning my builds on paper, good times :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 04, 2011, 09:49:23 am
Sadly or not, mathematical min/maxing is the core of any RPG. I remember when we didn't even have a calculator and I was planning my builds on paper, good times :D

LONG LIVE THAC0!!!!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gristle on May 04, 2011, 10:00:10 am
LONG LIVE THAC0!!!!
It is dead and may it stay dead forever.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 04, 2011, 10:09:56 am
It is dead and may it stay dead forever.

Someone gets a headache doing math.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Assarhaddon on May 04, 2011, 05:38:40 pm
Question:

As an cavalry does the "set" include the horse?
Because there are some maps that a horse is just useless. So smart cav will remove the horse and possible lance from spawn items.
By doing so am i nullifying my changes of getting this "uber cool text". (no other use known for it)

Or is this mystery text worth so much that i should spawn my horse?
(And pay the repair cost for the horse and a lance that i will dismount and drop anyway right after spawn)
 :?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 04, 2011, 05:46:44 pm
LONG LIVE THAC0!!!!
I.... I know what this is.
Which is why I feel nerdy now.

OK guys, clearly chadz adds 1 on our to-hit die roll.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 04, 2011, 06:26:57 pm
From now on we should call this 'The chadzext' so people know what you are talking about...

Hail the chadzext!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Oldsnake on May 04, 2011, 08:26:56 pm
I'm not so sure that wearing the same set all day increases ur chances to get the chadztext. Yesterday i was playing on battle server for about 2-3 hours with the same set. When the map changed i got bored and changed to strange armor set. After 2 rounds bang i got it.
I think the idea is to keep the same set to get the bonuses (?) on only one set.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Canary on May 04, 2011, 08:31:15 pm
It is dead and may it stay dead forever.

What, you don't like it when lower armor class means you have better protection? Negative armor is the best armor!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Oldsnake on May 04, 2011, 10:32:54 pm
I think i have an idea: the chadztext reduces the chance of items getting broken.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Felix on May 04, 2011, 10:47:51 pm
I think i have an idea: the chadztext reduces the chance of items getting broken.

If that was true...  :|
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dexxtaa on May 04, 2011, 11:05:27 pm
I think i have an idea: the chadztext reduces the chance of items getting broken.

That might explain a couple things, tbh.

I remember getting the message a few days ago.

Since then I've been gallivanting around the servers having shitty and good rounds, and I also remember saying after a while "I think the item degrade is broken, I haven't repaired a fucking thing in 2 maps" and then everyone yelled at me saying their shit broke every round.

On top of that, it would explain the "better understanding..." part.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Perceval on May 05, 2011, 03:59:01 am
gallivanting
:shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dexxtaa on May 05, 2011, 04:03:19 am
Nice take-away, Perceval
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: AgentQ on May 05, 2011, 04:37:53 am
I'm not so sure that wearing the same set all day increases ur chances to get the chadztext. Yesterday i was playing on battle server for about 2-3 hours with the same set. When the map changed i got bored and changed to strange armor set. After 2 rounds bang i got it.
I think the idea is to keep the same set to get the bonuses (?) on only one set.

did you level up too? I never got it, ppl told me it happens around leveling.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rumblood on May 05, 2011, 04:56:36 am
did you level up too? I never got it, ppl told me it happens around leveling.

I'm betting this is related. I was already 31 at patch, said patch discouraged me from retiring again, I haven't leveled as a result and haven't seen this message either. I reckon its a way to balance against the uber level characters because they won't be seeing this message anytime this year. I'll see if it pops when I hit lvl 32  :idea:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: HarunYahya on May 05, 2011, 07:21:18 am
It lowers the "difficulty" i think.
Like Great Maul asks you to have 20 str to use now,maybe after this random buff thingy which is dependent to usage by time imo,it reduces to 19 or maybe even lower ?
For horses it can be the same , sarranid horses riding difficulty may lower to 3 from 4 maybe ?
Check your weapons difficulty and write it down here.
Also maybe it lowers it's weight.
Better understanding on the arms and armours = Easier conditions to use your equips = lower difficulty rating to use them.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 05, 2011, 08:03:08 am
Well... i personally dont think the chadzext reduces the break chances... would be kinda lame imo - but you never know.

I'm more into the wpf thing... maybe +1 wpf when you wear those items? (not shown on website) is that possible?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Wallace on May 05, 2011, 08:19:13 am
Wow actually that makes sense

I went 107/12 (NBD) and I made 14000 gold this morning where i would usually lose that much

most other rounds had similar scores
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Vovka on May 05, 2011, 09:14:33 am
I am sure it is not associated with breakage of armor or weapons)) I suspect that the random for the event is already running. But chadz not yet figured out that it will give  :mrgreen: or invented but not yet written code  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 05, 2011, 10:24:44 am
did thou check if it lowers the requirements/difficulty of a weapon/armor? Oo

"you understand it better" => "you dont need to be that strong anymore". :O
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: FromDust on May 05, 2011, 10:34:09 am
Then i play as Archer with longbow and 130 wpf I get the message - "your WPF in bow too low"
so maybe this "chadztext" reduces the requirements WPF for weapons.  :mrgreen: Although the "chadztext" has to act and on the horses too, and they are without WPF requirements)),
did thou check if it lowers the requirements/difficulty of a weapon/armor? Oo

"you understand it better" => "you dont need to be that strong anymore". :O
but decrease the requirements Riding too good bonus   :|
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Leesin on May 05, 2011, 12:18:08 pm
did thou check if it lowers the requirements/difficulty of a weapon/armor? Oo

"you understand it better" => "you dont need to be that strong anymore". :O

How would you use it in the first place to get the message if you aren't already strong enough/skilled enough to equip it? lol.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: FromDust on May 05, 2011, 12:46:11 pm
How would you use it in the first place to get the message if you aren't already strong enough/skilled enough to equip it? lol.
Retire to check) chadz said that the bonus will be permanent even after retirement  )
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 05, 2011, 01:23:26 pm
Retire to check) chadz said that the bonus will be permanent even after retirement  )

correct. that was what i thought about.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 05, 2011, 02:21:52 pm
First can someone confirm that? Has any of their stuff gotten a lower difficulty?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Beans on May 05, 2011, 03:11:22 pm
If it lowers the chance of breaking that is pretty retarded, we are going to end up with people with tons of money banked up and see a return of everyone wearing plate 24/7.

If it is lower repairs or 1 more wfp or whatever, I hope it has a cap. Because even if it is a tiny increase over a long period of time, CRPG has plenty of people who will poopsock the shit out of it until it becomes completely unreasonable.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 05, 2011, 03:27:52 pm
to make something clear: its just been an idea.
maybe the difficulty lowers only some percent and you will see the effect that after it happened the 28459584(randomcount)-time to this one weapon/armor?

thats what I thought.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 05, 2011, 03:29:16 pm
Dont think it lowers difficulty... im still into something about a wpf increase when you get the chadzext
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Trael on May 05, 2011, 05:24:03 pm
My opinion comes from a childhood of playing:
Chainmail
D&D, 1st ed, revised, 2nd ed, 3rd ed
Shadowrun
Palladium
Rifts
Nightbane and many other Palladium systems
Gurps
Steampunk
Cyberpunk
Dabbling in a few others here and there

I wasn't even talking about computer/video game RPG's, which are hardly RPG's in anything but numerical mechanics almost every time (some have good stories, and the original NWN was probably the best crpg ever given player created/run persistant worlds).  Still, at their core, they are a mathematical system begging to be min/maxed, used and abused, exploited and ravaged.  Otherwise we wouldn't have RPG "systems" and would still be outside playing pretend without dice or books.
True

You you got quite numberheavy systems in there (ones i have been dealing with from those), im going to recomend paranoia if you can find proper gamemaster (gamemaster is only person whos skill matters most of time in paranoia, if someone from party tries to do something stupid or gameruining it wont matter in paranoia, becouse it just wont work and gets said player dead.). That system is one of least min/maxing systems that still has proper system in it and wont be just storytelling around candle. Basic setting is that playerchars are by default incompetent to do their jobs (or almost anything else...) and backstabbing isnt looked down, i fact its sometimes only way to advance in position or secure own survival. (but worry not... people have clones, in fact they already are clones... so they wont be all that eternally hatefull if you simply frame their char enough to get it killed.)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on May 05, 2011, 05:30:54 pm
did thou check if it lowers the requirements/difficulty of a weapon/armor? Oo

"you understand it better" => "you dont need to be that strong anymore". :O

My steel buckler and niuweidao still same difficulty.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Spawny on May 05, 2011, 05:42:02 pm
Been a few days, played a good 10-15 hours and have yet to see this message.

My gear is pretty much the same all the time, as I'm using the templar standard gear.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Camaris on May 05, 2011, 05:46:50 pm
Haven´t seen it too while having some of my best battlerounds ever.
So being good isnt necessary a point increasing your chance.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Segd on May 05, 2011, 06:35:25 pm
If the kd ratio affects the chance to get this message, then you must get it every hour playing on DtV mode. Made 130 to 1 sometime, but didn't received anything.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Siiem on May 05, 2011, 06:36:36 pm
I just got it today compeltely random tbh :S can't notice any difference either... damnit chadz tell us.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jailbait on May 05, 2011, 07:52:51 pm
I got it last night, so it certainly isn't skill or K:D related  :P
I did still get equipment repairs after the event, but possibly none of the big stuff?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 05, 2011, 08:46:03 pm
[13:25] <MrShine> on a scale of 1-10 with 1 being nowhere close and 10 being people guessed it, how would you say the current guesses are?
[13:25] <@cmp> 0
[13:26] <MrShine> -_-
[13:26] <@cmp> 1
[13:26] <@cmp> not kidding.

le sigh. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD PEOPLE!  I still feel like it has to be equipment related, some permanent change but..yeah.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: AgentQ on May 05, 2011, 09:10:52 pm
COMP usually tells the truth.  :rolleyes:
here's my guess:

Makes arms faster
Armors stronger
Horses more maneuverable
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on May 05, 2011, 09:12:44 pm
closest one so far :)
Just reminding you. chadz said we were close, might be trolling, might be not.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 05, 2011, 09:21:24 pm
maybe the chadzext has something to do with running speed/speed in general? 'know your items better' might make you more manovurable?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 05, 2011, 10:43:14 pm
Maybe it's there to fuck with our heads and make topics like this.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rumblood on May 06, 2011, 12:57:44 am
Then i play as Archer with longbow and 130 wpf I get the message - "your WPF in bow too low"
so maybe this "chadztext" reduces the requirements WPF for weapons.  :mrgreen: Although the "chadztext" has to act and on the horses too, and they are without WPF requirements)), but decrease the requirements Riding too good bonus   :|

This would make sense with the newest "your skill is too low for bows" message. It could reduce your penalty for using heavier armor. Since I always use the lightest armor possible I wouldn't get it as I don't have a penalty. I've got plenty of coin, I'll run around in plate for a few days and see if I get this message with that setup.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on May 06, 2011, 01:18:15 am
Are people getting this message multiple times with different armor sets? I finally got it today after several hours of playing in the same outfit. I did change my weapon one round before the message. There was no leveling or anything sincve I was in the midst of the 30-31 grind.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zanthos on May 06, 2011, 01:59:13 am
Many more hours played - still no message. I give up until it's revealed.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gristle on May 06, 2011, 02:24:48 am
I still think it's something very simple, like +1 damage or armor. It can affect any gear that you are wearing at the time, just like heirlooming. It's also supposed to be rare (I and many others still haven't seen this message), so I don't expect the bonuses to be too trivial.

The wording of the phrase is a lot like RPG code for "you've leveled up." It could be that all/one of the pieces of gear you are wearing has "leveled up" and increased many of its stats. We just can't see the increases. At least not yet. Honestly, how noticeable is a single +1 damage, speed, or armor in practice?

Also, there has to be something better than "chadztext."
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Deadlysiins on May 06, 2011, 03:16:21 am
Just a shot here but, Nothing? Nothing happens?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 06, 2011, 03:37:15 am
Just a shot here but, Nothing? Nothing happens?

Yeah. maybe they just have an invisible counter running in background for each player how often it shows up.
and maybe they will add some stuff later, when they see its balanced and bug-free.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 06, 2011, 03:52:19 am
I got it, no where near a level, did not kill anyone in the last ten seconds, and it was about 1 second before someone died.

Confused, but at least I use the same gear from level 17 and on up, sometimes earlier.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dexxtaa on May 06, 2011, 04:04:23 am
I got it, no where near a level, did not kill anyone in the last ten seconds, and it was about 1 second before someone died.

Confused, but at least I use the same gear from level 17 and on up, sometimes earlier.

See if your stuff breaks less.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: EponiCo on May 06, 2011, 04:46:36 am
I still think it's something very simple, like +1 damage or armor. It can affect any gear that you are wearing at the time, just like heirlooming. It's also supposed to be rare (I and many others still haven't seen this message), so I don't expect the bonuses to be too trivial.

The wording of the phrase is a lot like RPG code for "you've leveled up." It could be that all/one of the pieces of gear you are wearing has "leveled up" and increased many of its stats. We just can't see the increases. At least not yet. Honestly, how noticeable is a single +1 damage, speed, or armor in practice?

Also, there has to be something better than "chadztext."

I don't think it is this because as far as I know you cannot change items on the fly, each item needs it's own database entry (hence heirlooms are copies of the regular items with better stats). Much more likely a hidden +x to some stats I'd guess.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 06, 2011, 04:50:36 am
I don't think it is this because as far as I know you cannot change items on the fly, each item needs it's own database entry (hence heirlooms are copies of the regular items with better stats). Much more likely a hidden +x to some stats I'd guess.

Generally more likely, however it is possible to change the values after it has left the database, for example, when you query the database and put it into a variable the character table in the database could have a "bonus" and a "item with bonus" and if ("item with bonus" == "item") then "item damage" =  "item damage" + "bonus" and such like, but that's just saying that it is do-able.

Still none the wiser though, although I do enjoy trying to work out what the different things added do, I think there becomes a limit on how long I find it worthwhile working it out.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Socrates on May 06, 2011, 06:51:51 am
The value could be invisible and not really linked to the items file like people said. It could be coded on the site then passed onto the game like so. Say someone has a bonus for their sword. It's saved on a spreadsheet of their character on their site. Maybe bonus +1 dmg to sword. Everytime a player starts to join a server and loads his character it reads it back to the game giving it just a mutual increase to the sword by +1 applied to hit or etc.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 06, 2011, 07:57:01 am
Also, there has to be something better than "chadztext."

How about "purple rain"?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gristle on May 06, 2011, 08:45:49 am
I don't think it is this because as far as I know you cannot change items on the fly, each item needs it's own database entry (hence heirlooms are copies of the regular items with better stats). Much more likely a hidden +x to some stats I'd guess.

Remember that they did put in a lot of background coding (that I can't even begin to understand the depth of) with this patch. They have a lot more control over what they can change now.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: EponiCo on May 06, 2011, 09:04:59 am
Generally more likely, however it is possible to change the values after it has left the database, for example, when you query the database and put it into a variable the character table in the database could have a "bonus" and a "item with bonus" and if ("item with bonus" == "item") then "item damage" =  "item damage" + "bonus" and such like, but that's just saying that it is do-able.

Still none the wiser though, although I do enjoy trying to work out what the different things added do, I think there becomes a limit on how long I find it worthwhile working it out.

Ah, to clarify I was talking about the Warband Engine, afaik you need an extra entry in that database for every item with different stats. Still, only looked a bit or they might have changed it, but then I wonder why they still have heirlooms as seperate items around.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 06, 2011, 12:41:14 pm
How about "purple rain"?  :mrgreen:

"purple haze"!!!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 06, 2011, 04:14:33 pm
Ah, to clarify I was talking about the Warband Engine, afaik you need an extra entry in that database for every item with different stats. Still, only looked a bit or they might have changed it, but then I wonder why they still have heirlooms as seperate items around.

Yes, I was just saying you can change the values once you have queried the database, but I agree that it would be relatively unviable if everyone on the server had to have these calculations done to multiple items rather than just one query to the database that gets it all.

As I say, i'm just going to sit here and wait for the answer lol
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 06, 2011, 04:53:36 pm
cant change the name away from 'The chadzext (No 'T'!) now... too late!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tor! on May 06, 2011, 05:01:37 pm
Been playing alot since patch and still dont got this message :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 06, 2011, 06:43:11 pm
Just got it right after I spawned in a round.  Was doing fairly well a few rounds before, but I was 2 and 3 that round so nothing fancy there.

I wasn't close to leveling.

My current stats at the time of receiving the message:

Age34 [19]
Generation6
Gold221,892
Experience562,350
+82,351
Level up at644,701
Kills74
Deaths94
Rank#19394

I haven't yet checked to see if my items changed at all, but yeah.

Yay... I guess?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Clown on May 06, 2011, 07:14:40 pm
Just got it right after I spawned in a round.  Was doing fairly well a few rounds before, but I was 2 and 3 that round so nothing fancy there.

I wasn't close to leveling.

My current stats at the time of receiving the message:

Age34 [19]
Generation6
Gold221,892
Experience562,350
+82,351
Level up at644,701
Kills74
Deaths94
Rank#19394

I haven't yet checked to see if my items changed at all, but yeah.

Yay... I guess?

What were you wearing?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 06, 2011, 07:42:52 pm
Sword of war, sugerloaf helmet, heraldic transitional armor, plate mittens, khergit guard boots.  I think the set looks pretty good combined but it isn't by any means a 'set'.

The only connection (which is quite possibly coincidence) is that I got the text message during the rollback period as a sword & boarder.  I know I was wearing my heraldic transitional armor at that time, but I don't think any of the other pieces were the same... MAYBE the plate mittens.

e: I confirmed that the equipment in my inventory I wore is indistinguishable from new items on the website, ie there is no change in stats that is visible.  I'll have to confirm the same thing happens in game but I doubt I'll see any change.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 06, 2011, 08:05:45 pm
The set has to be just whatever yourcharacter is using, and not any predefined criteria.

I was using a Warbow, two Bodkin quivers, a hammer, a felt cap, Red Wispy Gauntlets, Nomad Boots and a Tribal Warriors Outfit.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 06, 2011, 08:18:06 pm
We've done 5 pages more of speculation. Now we want another carrot.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 06, 2011, 08:21:08 pm
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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: EponiCo on May 06, 2011, 08:21:15 pm
Nah, carrots are boring.

Been playing alot since patch and still dont got this message :(

Do you have fully heirloomed gear?
Or has anyone who got the message retired already (after it)?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 06, 2011, 08:26:42 pm
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maybe if we give a carrot, we will get a carrot... :shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tor! on May 06, 2011, 08:41:12 pm
Nah, carrots are boring.

Do you have fully heirloomed gear?
Or has anyone who got the message retired already (after it)?

Nah, I will have 7 heirlooms when we get them back. Did play a bit when I had the looms and didnt get it then either  :?

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maybe if we give a carrot, we will get a carrot... :shock:

I'll give a carrot too! Please tell us more O' mighty donkey  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gondemar on May 06, 2011, 08:48:49 pm
Quote
Nah, carrots are boring.
Are they ?
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And still can't find what the message means...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 06, 2011, 08:49:41 pm
(click to show/hide)
Does it mean that wearing weird stuff combination increase your chance to get chadztext?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tor! on May 06, 2011, 08:53:42 pm
Does it mean that wearing weird stuff combination increase your chance to get chadztext?

My guess is if you manage to do the carrot mans dance you get the text  8-)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 06, 2011, 08:58:05 pm
chadzext, not chadztext guys... chadztext is too weird to say
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 07, 2011, 02:28:16 am
chadzext, not chadztext guys... chadztext is too weird to say

ext = extermination. you dont want to make the almighty donkey angry when you say you want to exterminate him. So we stick to chadztext or Purple Haze or whatever.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: StuLLe on May 07, 2011, 07:13:13 am
My guess:
You are wearing a certain set of armour and each time u get the chadzext, one item is marked somehow. If you change any of the gear, u will have to start from zero. If somewhen all the gear of the set you were wearing is marked and you wear it, you get a pink flying carpet with warp speed and a huge wooden long dong silver stick shooting invisible fireballs at machinegun speed.

So, go nekkid with strawhat, try not to be kicked, hammer M...and fly sooner! :shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 07, 2011, 01:24:57 pm
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Oh, now i get it!.... Actually, not. THat was a un-usefull hint. Thanks anyways.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: mulas on May 07, 2011, 11:46:47 pm
Here's my guess:

Notice on the character page, every time you changes a piece of armor or weapon, the armor ID will change. So if you wear 1 set for a long time the message might appears, the chance of upkeep will be reduce.

So when that message appears the chance of paying upkeep will be reduce by a little bit for that particular set.

I would recommend mix and match armor and weapons to total of no more than 25k, or you'll start losing $$. Remember to account for loomed items prices are much higher but upkeep is the same. Weapons prices are too high imo.


Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 07, 2011, 11:51:00 pm
My armor ID is  NaNh NaNb NaNl, what's yours babe?


And lo, a new era of c-RPG pick up lines was born
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on May 07, 2011, 11:52:52 pm
'' I would spend as much money on you as full black armor and plated cahrger babe!''
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 08, 2011, 12:00:37 am
'' I would spend as much money on you as full black armor and plated cahrger babe!''
Woah, NSFW, I need to take one of these now, brb.
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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Senni__Ti on May 08, 2011, 12:41:22 am
had this message twice now Oo, still no idea what it does though, doesn't seem to be an obvious effect, maybe i'm looking in the wrong places though
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: HarunYahya on May 08, 2011, 01:03:00 am
I got this messege today also . I still dunno what it is about .  .   .    .     .      .       .        .         .          .
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: mulas on May 08, 2011, 01:36:41 am
My armor ID is  NaNh NaNb NaNl, what's yours babe?


And lo, a new era of c-RPG pick up lines was born

Lol, my bad, it seems like we all have the same ID. HAHA, I feel like an idiot.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 08, 2011, 02:15:21 am
My armor ID is  NaNh NaNb NaNl, what's yours babe?
Head
Body
Leg

NaN = not available???
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Amoebe on May 09, 2011, 11:48:49 am
NaN = Not a Number

The reason might be a division by zero or a wrong data type occuring in the calculation.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on May 09, 2011, 11:50:39 am
"NaN" Probably refers to the Programming-term "Not a Number" which you get when a "number-variable" is expected but another one (string, vector, char etc) is given.
My guess is: The calculation for the Armor-Rating which is shown on the webpage results in a wrong variable which is maybe a string or something similar but no integer or double or float and so simply "not a number". ;)


Edit: too slow. :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 09, 2011, 02:09:58 pm
I didn't know that (obviously) =P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Phazey on May 09, 2011, 03:30:02 pm
Oh my god, how much longer will he keep us guessing?!  :o

Damn that evil donkey. He's toying with us, i tell ya. Toying! :mad:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 09, 2011, 03:58:28 pm
Hmm... actually, I wonder.

I haven't read the whole topic. Is this related in any way to Strategus? I don't remember if anybody has suggested it could have something to do with it. *shrug*
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Phazey on May 09, 2011, 04:16:39 pm
Jep, that would me my guess aswell Ozy. But without proper hints, all guesses are shots in the dark. Moar carrots, chadz!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ManOfWar on May 09, 2011, 05:26:42 pm
My armor ID is  NaNh NaNb NaNl, what's yours babe?


And lo, a new era of c-RPG pick up lines was born

Hey thats my girls name... Shes a whore!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tor! on May 10, 2011, 01:45:02 am
Can we has new carrot please?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Elmori on May 10, 2011, 02:08:05 pm
Hmmmm.....


Bonus Heirloom points?

 :shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 10, 2011, 02:10:37 pm
Hmmmm.....


Bonus Heirloom points?

 :shock:

nop
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Elmori on May 10, 2011, 02:14:05 pm
Gaaah!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kafein on May 10, 2011, 02:52:48 pm
I never noticed this message while playing. I guess I suck  :lol:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dach on May 10, 2011, 05:31:18 pm
that make 2 of us!  :o
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 10, 2011, 05:54:20 pm
Well we haven't gotten any more hints in awhile.

Maybe 20 questions might interest?

two main ones:

1) Is the buff invisible to us on the site?  (ie is it something that isn't being reflected on my character screen but does still exist)

and

2) Will the buff help us in Strategus?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Oldsnake on May 10, 2011, 08:29:52 pm
Ok, update on my char.
Since last message i've played very little.
Two days ago, wearing the same armor set, but different weapon i got it again. I was doing pretty good. 2 hours latter, with the same armor set but different weapon, got it again.
Yesterday i got it again on the duel server, different armor set, same weapon. I was doing really bad, like 10-24 (because i fight only the best  :lol: ).
So 3 messages in 2 days, 2 in a short period of time, 1 while i was doing really bad.   
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 10, 2011, 08:47:13 pm
a) I hate you for your luck :o

b) Have you noticed anything different with your armor or weapon?  It sounds like you've gotten it 3x for armor and 3x for one of your weapons to date, which I'm guessing is what chadz was saying about 'concentrating it on the same set'.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Oldsnake on May 10, 2011, 08:59:45 pm
Nope, nothing changed. For a while i thought that thing lowered the chance of items getting broken, but now i'm not that sure.
So i have no idea. I still die in one or two hits (strange armor set - head+chest, heavy strange boots, lammelar gauntlets).
Weapons: 2x german greatesword, 1x claymore and morningstar, and 1x i forgot what :)).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Keshian on May 10, 2011, 09:02:48 pm
Maybe you need to accumulate a certain number of these messages with equipment and then you can give your armor/weapons a personal, unique name.

Oh, and I have never gotten the message on my main or my alts.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lech on May 10, 2011, 09:09:54 pm
Maybe you need to accumulate a certain number of these messages with equipment and then you can give your armor/weapons a personal, unique name.

Oh, and I have never gotten the message on my main or my alts.

Maybe you just suck? Play more often.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dravic on May 10, 2011, 09:13:10 pm
Maybe you just suck? Play more often.

You say that to one of the best archers around (if not THE best) that had 91 gen xD
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ThePoopy on May 10, 2011, 09:15:10 pm
i havnt got it either  :(

i think
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 10, 2011, 09:25:45 pm
You say that to one of the best archers around (if not THE best) that had 91 gen xD

ex-archer, when i am not mistaken. and yeah, "one of the best (if not THE best)" is right. level 48 before the december2010-patch, as far as i heard. and with that, the highest level i ever heard of.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: VicTheBear on May 10, 2011, 10:45:01 pm
Maybe your chances of getting the message increase after you've gotten it.
Kind of like when you retire you get exp bonuses or whatever, making you level faster?
Idk, I've never gotten the message or retired so I'm kind of taking a shit edit: OMG, loltypo-- SHOT in the dark here. Haha.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ToxicKilla on May 10, 2011, 10:57:44 pm
Maybe your chances of getting the message increase after you've gotten it.
Kind of like when you retire you get exp bonuses or whatever, making you level faster?
Idk, I've never gotten the message or retired so I'm kind of taking a shit edit: OMG, loltypo-- SHOT in the dark here. Haha.

Rofl taking a shit in the dark. Made my day.

But ye, I havn't got this message and have been doing really well elately. Maybe it's just random?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zanthos on May 10, 2011, 11:34:00 pm
Definitely seems very random. Myself and a few other regulars in TS have yet to get it while some others have randomly got the message. Still noooo clue.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 10, 2011, 11:51:32 pm
Maybe you just suck? Play more often.

You must be new...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Darter on May 11, 2011, 01:10:23 am
Maybe you just suck? Play more often.

You must be new...

hehehhe owned!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 11, 2011, 02:03:52 am
horray, i finally got it... :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 11, 2011, 02:21:28 am
horray, i finally got it... :)

Details? :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 11, 2011, 02:32:41 am
well i was doing pretty well, think i had something like 16/1 kill death ratio, was doing well on previous maps aswell, pretty much worn the same armour and used the same gear since i started playing, been playing for a fair few hours, i leveled up shortly before aswell, that's all i can say really... :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 11, 2011, 02:38:53 am
well i was doing pretty well, think i had something like 16/1 kill death ratio, was doing well on previous maps aswell, pretty much worn the same armour and used the same gear since i started playing, been playing for a fair few hours, i leveled up shortly before aswell, that's all i can say really... :)

Ok it seems that from everything that we have collected, we've gotten nowhere other than it doesn't seem to have any correlation with how well you're doing, however it does help to be consistent with weapons and armour... I'm none the wiser!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 11, 2011, 03:03:25 am
yeah, i have no idea, today has been like any other day and this is the first time i've seen it...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 11, 2011, 04:25:07 am
I wonder if the multiplier increases an invisible number (like equipment set ability or some junk) so people with multipliers get it more often?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 11, 2011, 04:30:08 am
i had x4 when i received the message, i wonder if money has anything to do with it, i've made around 30000 to 40000 within the past 2 days...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rumblood on May 11, 2011, 06:02:13 am
Players over lvl 31 who haven't leveled up again since the patch have not gotten this message yet.

Chew on that one.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 11, 2011, 06:16:51 am
this is my second time leveling up since the new patch...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 11, 2011, 07:58:14 am
http://raz.z0r.de/L/z0r-de_1875.swf
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kryser on May 11, 2011, 09:31:24 am
I just got my first one today, so far as i've noticed, nothing has changed.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Christo on May 11, 2011, 10:07:08 am
I've got this few days ago as well, but can't figure out what it does exactly.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Prpavi on May 11, 2011, 10:11:55 am
lol @ the massive witch hunt.


i bet its totally random and a way for chadz to pull ya legs  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Spawny on May 11, 2011, 10:24:39 am
Haven't had the message yet.

Retired just after the patch, been playing in the same gear since I was level 10. Now level 22 and a fair few hours later.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Konrax on May 11, 2011, 09:29:58 pm
I retired after the patch and been using the same gear too for most of the levels and I'm nearly lvl 30 again and haven't seen said message.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on May 11, 2011, 09:32:46 pm
http://raz.z0r.de/L/z0r-de_1875.swf
:lol: LOL
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on May 11, 2011, 09:51:26 pm
maybe its a experience boost?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 11, 2011, 11:27:39 pm
I don't know anymore, i'm in the same "I've retired and now I'm nearly level 30 again but I haven't seen the message yet" boat.

I guess chadz will withhold the secret and forget about us... Is there a chance for a little more transparency or hints that could be given.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 11, 2011, 11:32:39 pm
Is there a chance for a little more transparency or hints that could be given.
Yes.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Revelation on May 11, 2011, 11:35:42 pm
Yes.

Please enlighten us, oh great deity of donkey.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mamba on May 11, 2011, 11:52:27 pm
I had it like 3 times now with mamba, cant figure it out what it is though.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Ishtar_Soup on May 11, 2011, 11:52:58 pm
Well... As nothing else worked, and when all else fails...

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Oh yeah, it's on again!
It will rain donkeys and they will give us the truth!
Do not worry, The great and proud chadz will come to his senses!

The Weather may change! But we will persist!
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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: EponiCo on May 12, 2011, 12:02:35 am
Yes.

Let's rephrase the question, are you going to tell the community what this feature does in the near future (or more exactly the next two months)?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 12, 2011, 12:43:50 am
Well... As nothing else worked, and when all else fails...

(click to show/hide)

I'm in, too!

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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on May 12, 2011, 01:02:47 am
Hope it's not biaised on the fact that you don't change your equipment saved on the site. Cause since there's no "nothing", you can't take away one of your equipment for one round, so i usually don't put any weapon and decide each round wich i will take.
Anyway, never got the message, but i'm bad and don't play often.

But still, a clue in what it does and how you "can" (random factor) get it would be highly appreciated.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on May 12, 2011, 01:07:23 am
maybe it have something to do with the number of items in your inventory general, more items less chance?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lorenzo on May 12, 2011, 01:17:10 am
You can hide
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You can disguise
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You can play dead
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You can destroy everything we built
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You can even arm yourself
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We will stop at nothing, even if it means to dig you out of a hole
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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 12, 2011, 01:21:12 am
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FOR chadzUSE ONLY! :O
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tor! on May 12, 2011, 01:47:24 am
chadz is to busy chasing carrots to tell us anything:

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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 12, 2011, 02:51:50 am
Yes.

Don't change the subject with your puns!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kaelaen on May 12, 2011, 03:57:43 am
Got it on my archer recently, I now have gilded hourglass gauntlets which seem to do exactly the same things as a regular pair of hourglass gauntlets.  Got it in like 3 rounds on a x2.

Definitely probably has to do with how little you change your equipment, I've been wearing the standard BRD light armor set on my two main characters for awhile now but when the patch hit I changed my main melee guy's uniform to the brynja on the first post-patch day and haven't changed that since.  But, judging by the fact I haven't been getting the message on my melee character even though I play him more and have a much higher KDR on him, the fact is I have been wearing that uniform for a lesser period of time so... yeah.

Don't know if weapons have anything to do with it, I've never changed my longsword on my melee guy but I have changed around my bow and melee weapon several times on my archer looking for a good combination.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: TomMyyY on May 12, 2011, 04:20:58 am
I highly doubt it has anything to do with either KDR or wearing the same stuff all the time.

I have been playing around at lvl 31 the last couple of days wearing the same outfit for a long time, didn't get antything.

Retired today and got it at lvl 9 or something even though I was switching outfits pretty much every round.

Don't really have a clue to be honest.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 12, 2011, 05:08:18 am
Got it today just after I killed the last guy.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ShinySpoons on May 12, 2011, 05:12:04 am
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FOR chadzUSE ONLY! :O

I wish this could be my banner in single player right now :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 12, 2011, 06:20:08 am
i got this message again, some things i noticed but aren't much help, the message comes when 4 mins are remaining, when there is 1 man left standing on the enemy team, low on health, when you are towards the end of your level, dunno if it's the same with everyone else, but these things have been exactly the same both times...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 12, 2011, 08:06:19 am
bad news: the stuff we gathered so far was corrupted and had to be deleted.
good news: it's fixed with the patch, so any time you see the message from now on will stay permanently
another good news: we changed the occurance mechanic slightly
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 12, 2011, 08:08:25 am
bad news: the stuff we gathered so far was corrupted and had to be deleted.
good news: it's fixed with the patch, so any time you see the message from now on will stay permanently
another good news: we changed the occurance mechanic slightly

Bah, so my times of getting chadz text counted for nothing, psh...

I can't believe I lost all of my... Wait what did we lose?  :lol:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 12, 2011, 08:09:05 am
your knowledge of the items, ofc
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: FromDust on May 12, 2011, 08:10:31 am
So back to our main question...    What is THAT?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mustikki on May 12, 2011, 08:10:55 am
your knowledge of the items, ofc

What do we know about them?  :!:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 12, 2011, 08:13:23 am
a lot or a little.

that depends on how often you've got the message, ofc.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: VicTheBear on May 12, 2011, 08:13:29 am
bad news: the stuff we gathered so far was corrupted and had to be deleted.
good news: it's fixed with the patch, so any time you see the message from now on will stay permanently
another good news: we changed the occurance mechanic slightly

So does this mean that people who are lvl 30+ might actually have a chance at seeing the message now? Or were you talking about some other occurrence mechanic type stuff?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 12, 2011, 08:14:19 am
So does this mean that people who are lvl 30+ might actually have a chance at seeing the message now?
not going into detail, but more like the other way around :P
edit: well, that's enough carrots for a day.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: VicTheBear on May 12, 2011, 08:15:03 am
Noooooo!

*cries*
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mustikki on May 12, 2011, 08:15:55 am
and i was going to milk more information from you. you.. evil.. troll :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tzar on May 12, 2011, 08:17:05 am
I found out what it does each time you get the msg your penis grow by 6 inches  :!:

Its a form of cRPG viagra
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: VicTheBear on May 12, 2011, 08:32:40 am
I found out what it does each time you get the msg your penis grow by 6 inches  :!:

Its a form of cRPG viagra

Then why does he not give it to the older players who would need it more?
This theory is weak.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blondin on May 12, 2011, 09:31:20 am
Is this related to Strat and "crafting" (knowledge)?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: SchokoSchaf on May 12, 2011, 10:04:28 am
Could it be that you get the message after lvling a few times in the same outfitbuild? not necessarily right away after a lvl up.
Got the message with lvl 6 or 7 wearing always the same useless peasent stuff.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rhaelys on May 12, 2011, 10:10:22 am
bad news: the stuff we gathered so far was corrupted and had to be deleted.
good news: it's fixed with the patch, so any time you see the message from now on will stay permanently
another good news: we changed the occurance mechanic slightly

This makes me happy, considering I have never gotten the message.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Sphinxer on May 12, 2011, 10:18:00 am
It might just be a very big coincidence, but I had that msg right after a tick that gave me exactly 100k exp ... I was too low level to have a good K:D or to be top of the scoreboard ...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 12, 2011, 04:28:58 pm
i think i got it after the patch, maybe, i can't remember... :cry:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 12, 2011, 04:33:20 pm
Well, I guess he did ring true on quoting my text!

I never got it originally so I don't mind that I lost the imaginary buff but it might give us all a chance to find out a little more about it!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 12, 2011, 04:37:54 pm
The question is...

Is the message just an info about something you did? like "you got 100k exp more!"
or is the message random and doing something special?

argh its hard to write what i mean.
Dunno if that try helps:
Is that Message triggered by something?
or does that message trigger something?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 12, 2011, 04:58:08 pm
Never seen this message. I play a lot across multiple different characters - I may play an hour as crossbowman then hop on my full strength character for two more etc. but the important bit is that I never really change my gear, I pick a set of rags that have me looking like a member of a militia or mercenary group, and I build my characters around a specific weapon and never switch out to anything else, or even loot anything from dead players.
This makes me think the effect is totally random or maybe just has a crazy low chance of happening.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Prentyss on May 12, 2011, 04:58:38 pm
The question is...

Is the message just an info about something you did? like "you got 100k exp more!"
or is the message random and doing something special?

argh its hard to write what i mean.
Dunno if that try helps:
Is that Message triggered by something?
or does that message trigger something?


Maybe both, and with maths : "smtg -> msg && msg -> smtg"  equals  "smtg -> smtg"

That's right, isn't it ?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 12, 2011, 05:10:54 pm
So I got it again this morning (1st time post reset that chadz mentioned).

I was 5-0 in a round, got it near the end of it.  Was level 28, close to level 29 by ~100k 125k.

I still don't see anything immediately different, but I did notice a weird thing on the site (could be a bug or something else weird).

I just went to check the site and in the space that you can increase skills, my name is filled in in the 'weaponmaster' skill increase box.  I know I never did that before, so I'm wondering if something funky is going on with the 'thine arms buff' in regards to weaponmaster or wpf? 

Again could be nothing, but I though I'd share. 

E: eh more I think about it it's probably just a bug... another one of my lines show that and it is trying to save a new password or whatever.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Vanular on May 12, 2011, 06:31:35 pm
A long time ago, chadz mentioned he was thinking about making a system where players would earn wpf for specific weapons depending on how much they used that weapon.

E.g. if I'm using my Poleaxe a lot, I will gain extra wpf for that specific weapon (I think it was something like that).

Sort of like: This is my weapon, there are many like it but this one is mine - Therefore I am better at using it.

I wouldn't know though.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justjr on May 12, 2011, 06:38:01 pm
Yeah, I think it should be like SP, when you gain points using weapons AND with the skill WP (wich make you win points faster too).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Camaris on May 12, 2011, 06:41:18 pm
Quote from: VicTheBear on Today at 05:13:29
Quote
So does this mean that people who are lvl 30+ might actually have a chance at seeing the message now?


not going into detail, but more like the other way around :P
edit: well, that's enough carrots for a day.

the other way round????
you have a better chance seeing this if you are 30+?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: VicTheBear on May 12, 2011, 07:10:00 pm



the other way round????
you have a better chance seeing this if you are 30+?

I think he was saying you have a better chance seeing it if you are below level 30. Which is why I cried.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 12, 2011, 09:38:36 pm
I just got it like 2 minutes ago In a siege and I was no where near the next level and I hadn't killed anyone but was fighting some one  :?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 12, 2011, 10:15:47 pm
maybe its for succesful blocks or something like that?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: asheme on May 12, 2011, 11:59:33 pm
I got it on a lvl 9 alt while I was busy dying horribly and generally being terrible.

So, there's that.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 13, 2011, 02:30:04 am
some kind of achievement?
"do thousand steps in that boots"
"do 200 hitting swings with that weapon"
"do 50 succesful blocks with that weapon"
"die 1337 times with that gloves"
"get 300 headshots with that helmet"

and so on. would be interesting imho. maybe some bonus-exp for such stuff.

(guess i will work over that list and post it in teh suggestions-forumz)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: John on May 13, 2011, 02:45:14 am
In Grand Theft Auto 3, if you beat 100 Taxi missions in a row, you got a red taxi with spike covered bumpers.

Please add a taxi with spike covered bumpers to cRPG, thank you.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 13, 2011, 02:48:20 am
some kind of achievement?
"do thousand steps in that boots"
"do 200 hitting swings with that weapon"
"do 50 succesful blocks with that weapon"
"die 1337 times with that gloves"
"get 300 headshots with that helmet"

and so on. would be interesting imho. maybe some bonus-exp for such stuff.

(guess i will work over that list and post it in teh suggestions-forumz)

That would make allot of sense since we are all getting it at different times, levels and what not 
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on May 13, 2011, 03:00:29 am
That would make allot of sense since we are all getting it at different times, levels and what not

Yes, except chadz said there was a random factor in it, and i don't see where the random factor is in thoses... achievements. So no.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: John on May 13, 2011, 03:03:24 am
The random factor is the fact that this message isn't tied to anything whatsoever, and just randomly appears for no reason and with no effect.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 13, 2011, 04:33:01 am
Yet again chadz trolls us
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Opium.dk on May 13, 2011, 06:14:33 am
In Grand Theft Auto 3, if you beat 100 Taxi missions in a row, you got a red taxi with spike covered bumpers.

Please add a taxi with spike covered bumpers to cRPG, thank you.

This guy needs to be a dev.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: 7000bc on May 13, 2011, 06:25:07 am
I only had 2 heirlooms and after I saw this message I got a free one, I think...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Odiouspox on May 13, 2011, 06:32:03 am
I've only been playing a few weeks , had this message 4 times, did not stop to find out what it may or may not have done. Just moved on with my oft times poorly executed and most certainly noobish head crushing but mostly dieing spree.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Halevolm on May 13, 2011, 11:47:32 am
A terrible thing came to my mind, please don't tell me that you need FULL freaking set to get this message, have been playing without headarmor because an archer character and haven't got the message while playing with same equipment from about lvl14-29 almost 30..... If that isn't the case I think I just then have a awfully bad luck.....  :cry:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Vibe on May 13, 2011, 11:55:23 am
A terrible thing came to my mind, please don't tell me that you need FULL freaking set to get this message, have been playing without headarmor because an archer character and haven't got the message while playing with same equipment from about lvl14-29 almost 30..... If that isn't the case I think I just then have a awfully bad luck.....  :cry:

It's just rare afaik.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Korgoth on May 13, 2011, 12:07:41 pm
I've gotten this message on like 4 different occasions on 4 different alts. Some I haven't even played a lot on and I got it so I don't think it matters much about time played.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Phazey on May 13, 2011, 12:21:54 pm
Indeed, i played a lot but haven't seen this message yet. Oh chadz, how you tease us.

Moar carrots plz?!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Razzer on May 13, 2011, 01:34:59 pm
Wut is that?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 13, 2011, 02:25:42 pm
Wut is that?

(click to show/hide)

thats the question.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 13, 2011, 08:36:00 pm
thats the question.

Will it blend?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kubla Khan on May 13, 2011, 08:41:46 pm
Maybe the purpose of this message is to make us think in way like: "Oh! WTF?? I'm cooler?" But in fact that is a little joke and it does nothing ????
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on May 13, 2011, 08:44:06 pm
exactly, so we dont think about strategious... i say its a trap :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Zoidberg on May 13, 2011, 08:49:46 pm
I started a new char  and reached lvl 2. and then this happened:
(click to show/hide)
So i have to play in peasant gear forever! Oh cruel chadz!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cellex on May 13, 2011, 08:59:24 pm
exactly, so we dont think about strategious... i say its a trap :)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Punisher on May 13, 2011, 09:00:47 pm
I started a new char  and reached lvl 2. and then this happened:
(click to show/hide)
So i have to play in peasant gear forever! Oh cruel chadz!

That just proves my theory, it's completely random :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ManOfWar on May 13, 2011, 09:05:12 pm
Will it blend?

haha plus 1
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: HELM on May 13, 2011, 09:38:21 pm
I've noticed that the people getting the message on more than 1 occasion are most likely people who play the game alot. I beleive the message is tied into how much time you put in.

I beleive the bonus is increased xp.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 13, 2011, 10:05:24 pm
I beleive the bonus is increased xp.

Unfortunately not. I received no said bonus of XP.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justjr on May 13, 2011, 10:46:25 pm
I've been playing 80 hours the week, and dont receive the message. Play only battle mode (sometimes siege).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ZigZag on May 14, 2011, 05:14:47 am
I got the message today, whaaaaaaat does it doooo......so far all I know is, it's something for the set you were wearing when you got the message, and that it's perm, it stacks if you get the message multiple times on the same set, and that it's a very very good thing. Adding all that up, I have one question to ask you chadz, are the bonuses that are applied to the set carried over when the set is mixed with other gear, or are the bonuses only available when the set remains the same.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 14, 2011, 11:57:36 am
I've been playing 80 hours the week, and dont receive the message. Play only battle mode (sometimes siege).

Pff! Get a life! :P

(sorry i had to troll that. :( )
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: John on May 14, 2011, 01:55:37 pm
I received it twice within two maps tonight.  I feel lucky.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Elmori on May 14, 2011, 09:01:07 pm
eerrrrrmmmmmm.....

Reduce random item with 1 slot?

 :shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: kongxinga on May 14, 2011, 09:13:14 pm
My guess is that items break less frequently, that is why upkeep numbers stay the same. I got one when I was off my horse, which is too bad. Fractional KD, in siege (thus the dismount).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 14, 2011, 09:52:58 pm
Ok, let's try to summerize what we know

chadz said:
(click to show/hide)

-It's something very good which needs to be stacked more than once
-It's permanent
-It's applied to everything you carry when you get the chadztext, weapons and horses included.
-You have more chance to get it when you are of a lower level than 30
-It's not related to time spent playing
-Obvioulsy it increases your knowledge of the items  :P


Everyone who gets it should post their equipment and level
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bilbo on May 14, 2011, 10:01:32 pm
thx for summing it up +1^^

received today the first time ( not sure there were some before i haven't noticed) i played with the same gear for like a week now:

Head: Barbutte
Body: Kuyak
Hands: Wisby gaunlet
Legs: Rus splinted greaves
Weapon: Mighty long hafted spiked mace (yes that is only ONE weapon^^)

i was lvl 29 while receiving it an i havn't noticed any changes so far :/
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 14, 2011, 10:54:16 pm
Did you just levelled before getting it?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 15, 2011, 12:17:43 am
chadz posted a carrot somewhere about the market. I'll find it.

EDIT:

Actually, the market idea is very discriminating against those that aren't in clans.
Thinking that already?
just wait till people figure out what the mysterious text does...

Speculation?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bilbo on May 15, 2011, 12:32:12 am
Nope i received it 5 minutes before reaching lvl 30
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 15, 2011, 12:35:26 am
Interesting. So knowledge of weapons is something that should happen more often (or have a greater effect) for who isn't in a clan.


I remember chadz saying something about chadztext like a way to add a roleplay flavour into the mod, maybe the "originality" of your equipment set has a role on the chances
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on May 15, 2011, 12:37:55 am
chadz posted a carrot somewhere about the market. I'll find it.
Actually, the market idea is very discriminating against those that aren't in clans.
Thinking that already?
just wait till people figure out what the mysterious text does...

Speculation?
I'd like to ask just one thing to all the people who got the "what is that" message. Did you get it with your main, or with an alt, or you hadn't choosed your main at that moment  ?
Cause if it's only with our main, and if we can't see it on cRPG, it's maybe because it's actually a minor buff for strategus. Like you will be able to craft that sort of equipment for less materials. And if you have enough "what is that" message on the same equipment, you might be able to craft an heirloomed version of it.
Thus the fact that clan will more benefit of having a person with a lot of "what is that" message.

I love speculating.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 15, 2011, 12:39:28 am
Interesting. So knowledge of weapons is something that should happen more often (or have a greater effect) for who isn't in a clan.


I remember chadz saying something about chadztext like a way to add a roleplay flavour into the mod, maybe the "originality" of your equipment set has a role on the chances

Are you sure the chanche is influenced in clans? How will they even know that?

We don't even know in what way he meant it, and in what way chadz meant it. And chadz says that he has to wait what the text DOES, not when we figure out WHEN.

EDIT: Bulzur, i can confirm i wasn't on my main character at the moment. I hadn't chosen one, so that MIGHT influence it. So far we only know the level does.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on May 15, 2011, 03:10:29 am
lower chance for breaking some piece of equipment by 1% every time? and permanetly
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 15, 2011, 10:42:18 am
Yeah Polobow you are right, it probably has nothing to do with chances.

But I really hope it's not strategus related, cause the lower the connections between crpg and strategus are, the better
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 15, 2011, 11:57:23 am
More info - I just got this on my pure strength alt characterter. I was level 27, 3/4 the way to next level. I was also top of the scoreboard for my team, but I wasn't doing anything when it happened, hitting a door and halfway through the chadzext pops up.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Glyph on May 15, 2011, 11:57:31 am
lower chance for breaking some piece of equipment by 1% every time? and permanetly
then i hope i get it 100 times :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 15, 2011, 12:58:15 pm
Uhm I misread the marketplace carrot, it seems that chadztext might be something that helps clans more than randomers

also
[12:14]   Astinus   chadz|afk: chadztext is strategus related?
[12:31]   chadz|afk   astinus, ofc


it could mean everything and his contrary btw
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 15, 2011, 01:28:56 pm
now was that trolling or not :)

also, let me tell you that from what I've seen, at least one person got it 99% right. not gonna tell you who and when/what page, of course :]
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 15, 2011, 01:40:41 pm
now was that trolling or not :)

also, let me tell you that from what I've seen, at least one person got it 99% right. not gonna tell you who and when/what page, of course :]

who has little enough life to make a post summing up every guess on this chadzext thing so we can comapre them and try to guess the right one?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 15, 2011, 01:45:40 pm
Please don't tempt me.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: John on May 15, 2011, 01:47:27 pm
now was that trolling or not :)

also, let me tell you that from what I've seen, at least one person got it 99% right. not gonna tell you who and when/what page, of course :]

The random factor is the fact that this message isn't tied to anything whatsoever, and just randomly appears for no reason and with no effect.

Just admit it, you vile troll.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 15, 2011, 01:49:48 pm
Maybe, based on this and previous carrots, the answer is that it has no effect outside of strategus?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Nessaj on May 15, 2011, 02:30:35 pm
lower chance for breaking some piece of equipment by 1% every time? and permanetly

I think we have a winner.

I've had this text twice, first one after a retirement exactly at level 15, I had been wearing random equipment (non-default) up until then.
Second time half way through level 30, again wearing my default setup.

I neither feel nor see a difference, though perhaps it is so minuscule it goes unnoticed but I'd still place my bet on justme's guess.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tydeus on May 15, 2011, 03:21:11 pm
I'd like to ask just one thing to all the people who got the "what is that" message. Did you get it with your main, or with an alt, or you hadn't choosed your main at that moment  ?
Cause if it's only with our main, and if we can't see it on cRPG, it's maybe because it's actually a minor buff for strategus. Like you will be able to craft that sort of equipment for less materials. And if you have enough "what is that" message on the same equipment, you might be able to craft an heirloomed version of it.
Thus the fact that clan will more benefit of having a person with a lot of "what is that" message.

I love speculating.
I'm guessing this guy is the one who is the closest.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on May 15, 2011, 03:24:32 pm
and i guess that we should reward the winner? maybe 1 loom point :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 15, 2011, 03:28:32 pm
If it's something for strategus, yeah I guess that Bulzur got it right. Also it can explain why the early data was corrupted: it wasn't yet tied with the main character thing.

Otherwise I feel that the decrease in wpf weight penality might be the runner up
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 15, 2011, 08:04:40 pm
now was that trolling or not :)

also, let me tell you that from what I've seen, at least one person got it 99% right. not gonna tell you who and when/what page, of course :]

And is it between your last post and this one, or are you just a huge troll and waited 2 weeks before you said this?

I expect the second one. But he has been serious in this thread though...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2011, 08:11:27 pm
I'd like to ask just one thing to all the people who got the "what is that" message. Did you get it with your main, or with an alt, or you hadn't choosed your main at that moment  ?
Cause if it's only with our main, and if we can't see it on cRPG, it's maybe because it's actually a minor buff for strategus. Like you will be able to craft that sort of equipment for less materials. And if you have enough "what is that" message on the same equipment, you might be able to craft an heirloomed version of it.
Thus the fact that clan will more benefit of having a person with a lot of "what is that" message.

I love speculating.

I had not chosen a main yet when I received it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 15, 2011, 08:38:57 pm
I had not chosen a main yet when I received it.
recevied it before or after that:
bad news: the stuff we gathered so far was corrupted and had to be deleted.
good news: it's fixed with the patch, so any time you see the message from now on will stay permanently
another good news: we changed the occurance mechanic slightly
?

Also probably chadz simply cba to code something that recognize if your character is main or not, so the chadztext happens to everyone but only main characters actually involved with strategus gains something from that
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on May 15, 2011, 09:55:24 pm
now was that trolling or not :)

also, let me tell you that from what I've seen, at least one person got it 99% right. not gonna tell you who and when/what page, of course :]
Didn't you already quote me with "this is the closest one so far?" Guess it's either that or one similar to it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Elmori on May 15, 2011, 11:01:25 pm
Didn't you already quote me with "this is the closest one so far?" Guess it's either that or one similar to it.

Mine needs a shining too. They touched Sieem...

All joking aside. I think what chadz meant with a set is that the bonus is applied to your equipment so if you change a lot then your gonna have boosted equipment that you don't use. So if you stay with one set then they get all the boosts and thus gets stronger.

EDIT: OOOH chadz is here! Finally time for the Great Reveal!?!?!?

closest one so far :)

I'm sticking with reduced slot requirement for one of your used items...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 15, 2011, 11:07:39 pm
I know what it does:

it irritates/confuses players - what is a good thing - at least for chadz+devs... since they are amused... and so they are happier and more motivated for strategus-coding. :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 15, 2011, 11:51:53 pm
How more posts how more confused it gets... :s.

But reduced slots? That doesn't make sense... you can "max" it :c. to 0 slots. You can't max speed, or damage. You can max chanche, either 0% or 100%.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Elmori on May 16, 2011, 12:12:21 am
How more posts how more confused it gets... :s.

But reduced slots? That doesn't make sense... you can "max" it :c. to 0 slots. You can't max speed, or damage. You can max chanche, either 0% or 100%.

Who said it could be max'ed to 0 slots. It may be 1.  :lol:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Reinhardt on May 16, 2011, 12:36:11 am
Subtracting slots wouldn't make sense...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Elmori on May 16, 2011, 12:48:08 am
Subtracting slots wouldn't make sense...

Oh damn...

Any more ideas anyone?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Vanular on May 16, 2011, 01:03:25 am
Oh damn...

Any more ideas anyone?

Your knowledge of the items, ofc.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on May 16, 2011, 01:09:49 am
I bet you can use the items in strategus or something. Does anyone know if it happens on alts?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 16, 2011, 01:10:12 am
Lets just close this topic.

We had 99percent. we cant get closer.

If chadz wants to tell us he will - he does not care if we try to find or not-find out what it is. I guess if we try to find out he is amused more and will not tell us.

So just lets keep quiet until he tells us.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 16, 2011, 01:24:48 am
Whatever it is, it will be nerfed into oblivion so that all the grinding is wasted, like everything in this mod.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Elmori on May 16, 2011, 01:59:32 am
Whatever it is, it will be nerfed into oblivion so that all the grinding is wasted, like everything in this mod.

Oh happy happy joy joy!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcUxwpOQ_A&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcUxwpOQ_A&feature=related)

Edit: Cuz I love you man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taqLEjCVTdo
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gristle on May 16, 2011, 12:01:01 pm
Just got the message in siege with an alt. Still haven't gotten it on my main.

I had also just bought a helmet just 5 or 10 minutes before getting the message. Just good luck with that?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Malaclypse on May 16, 2011, 01:45:26 pm
I'm curious to know, because I haven't had it happen, but has anyone gotten this in DTV? I've gotten it a few times now, less than five, three or four I think 1 in battle and the rest in siege.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 16, 2011, 02:35:26 pm
i had it today. on EU_4

with my lvl 30 (around 4,7mio exp) 2hand-chick... wearing some kind of Wok, heraldic mail w/ Surcoat, Khergit Leather boots, some mail-gloves, Horseman Heater Shield and 1 (one) Longsword. - I were doing averagy, as usual.
Oh and i got it 1 second before the round was over and we respawned.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 16, 2011, 03:33:34 pm
Your knowledge of the items, ofc.

And what does knowledge of items do?

How about we do a example in real life.
Your used to an item and you know how it works. What will change that? Let's look at the item stats in game.

Weight: Obviously can't change. If you know how to handle a weapon it won't get lighter?

Weapon length: Also can't be changed, makes sense.

Difficulty: Now that i think about it.... this one would make sense! Haven't thought about a difficulty drop. And this is testable, right?

Speed rating: Possible. You know how to handle an item and are more proficient with it, thus you can use it faster.

Damage: I don't see how this can affect the base damage, but knowing how to use your weapon IRL would make it more usefull, maybe in-game it would change the base damage. Possible.

Slots: I can't think up of anything how this can be changed if you use your item more. Actually this can't be applied IRL?

I'm probally missing some stats from ranged projectiles and armor, but if it is one thing, it's a stat that is on every item... which would be either difficulty or weight.
Remember, this is only a speculation if the chadztext would change any of the item stats. We don't even know yet if it does that.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 16, 2011, 03:50:45 pm
cuz some of you asked: it happened on my alt.

but i guess its only happening when you have a main... - not sure about that.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Belatu on May 16, 2011, 03:51:24 pm
1. the message is the same for every item

2. Everytime one item gets the "message-modification" it is exponentially harder to happen the same on the same item.

3. the more differents items you wear it will appear more. As the first time for each is easy.

4. It is attached to the repairment cost, the more you repair something, ramdomly and eventually will cost less

5. It also reduces penalizations like the Wpf vs Weight one

6. It stay as a personal and hidden modification in the relation character - item. So you can sell it and buy it again and you will keep the mod.

I say.  8-)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: mandible/splinteryourjaw on May 16, 2011, 03:54:10 pm
I'm going to go with extra heirlooms for the whole set simply because I find that to be the most advantageous to me.  I don't have any and a coule at once would be nice.

I'm afraid "A better understanding.." has to do with weapon profiency though

I had it once pre-patch and, being new, thought it was just a message to boost everyone's morale and not directed specifically at me.  I've got it one time post patch, yesterday, about 1 sec before the round ended in red letters this time
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 16, 2011, 05:56:56 pm
moar donkey-pix!

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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 16, 2011, 07:52:26 pm
I got the message today on the duel server. Logged in and before i even fought anyone the message appeared.. Still no idea what it does but happy to know I am in the club
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Glyph on May 16, 2011, 09:28:11 pm
...
Damage: I don't see how this can affect the base damage, but knowing how to use your weapon IRL would make it more usefull, maybe in-game it would change the base damage. Possible.
...
i think damage can be changed by for example sharpening the edge :wink:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 16, 2011, 10:02:23 pm
Or embluntening (o_O) it for blunt weapons =o

The thing about this message is that it doesn't seem to target a specific weapon, and if it does it doesn't tell you about it. When I got the message it turned my balanced awlpike into a tempered awlpike on the website but ingame it remained balanced, so that was probably just a bug.

Maybe this only happens to items you have heirloomed... but what exactly would it do to them?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 16, 2011, 10:11:32 pm
Or embluntening it for blunt weapons

I like where this is going...  :lol:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 16, 2011, 11:22:09 pm
(click to show/hide)
I like where this is going...  :lol:


fixed!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 16, 2011, 11:23:37 pm
after I got the message I logged into the website and in my equipment I have a new item that I can not use or equip.
Scary great Axe
3.25 weight
96 length
19 difficulty
92 speed
48 cut
sell price $814 (which is really low) to bad I am unable to use or equip it

the stats on my normal weapon Powerful great axe (this is the weapon i was using when i got the message)
3.5 weight
96 length
15 difficulty
94 speed
45 cut
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 16, 2011, 11:52:31 pm
Iv had it on my cav character (not my main) 3 times and I have 2 new weapons I cant equip or use

Masterwork Poleaxe
weight 3.25
requirement 17
spd rtng 92
weapon length 141
swing damage 50, cut
thrust damage 37 pierce
Can't use on horseback
Bonus against Shield
sell for 10,447

Mighty Poleaxe
weapon length: 141
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 17
speed rating: 90
weapon length: 141
thrust damage: 33 pierce
swing damage: 43 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Bonus against Shield
sell for 8,036

this is the poleaxe I used when I got the message

Mighty Poleaxe
weight 4
requirement 17
spd rtng 90
weapon length 141
swing damage 46, cut
thrust damage 36 pierce
Can't use on horseback
Bonus against Shield
sell for 8,036

Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: bosco on May 16, 2011, 11:53:35 pm
Got this message for the first time today, while wearing a set of armor I rarely use... hmm.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 16, 2011, 11:55:42 pm
there's nothing new in my inventory, so i'm thinking, have i gained this for something that is already fully heirloomed, in other words, i have gained nothing...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Xol! on May 17, 2011, 12:07:28 am
Now using this post to keep track of when/what I'm using when I get it:


Main:
5-16-2011: straw hat, leather jacket, khergit leather boots, leather gloves, new pike
5-30-2011: straw hat, red cavalry robe, leather boots, leather gloves, mw highland claymore
5-31-2011: straw hat, leather jacket, khergit leather boots, leather gloves, villager's practice longsword
6-1-2011: faceplate, light kuyak, splinted leather greaves over mail, gilded hourglass gauntlets, mw highland claymore
6-4-2011: straw hat, red cavalry robe, leather boots, leather gloves, mw heavy bastard sword, champ courser
6-6-2011: faceplate, blue tunic over mail, leather boots, plate mittens, mw heavy bastard sword
6-22-2011: straw hat, leather jacket, khergit leather boots, leather gloves, elder's practice longsword, mw crossbow, steel bolts
7-13-2011: straw hat, red cavalry robe, mail chausses, leather gloves, mw longsword, champ courser

straw hat: 6
faceplate: 2

leather jacket: 3
red cav robe: 3
light kuyak: 1
blue tunic over mail: 1

khergit leather boots: 4
leather boots: 2
mail chausses: 1
splinted leather greaves: 1

leather gloves: 6
gilded hourglass: 1
plate mittens: 1

pike: 1
highland claymore: 2
practice longsword: 2
heavy bastard sword: 2
longsword: 1
crossbow: 1
steel bolts: 1

courser: 2

Alt:
6-8-2011: kaftan, rus cavalry boots, leather gloves, long bow, bodkin arrows, spiked mace
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 17, 2011, 12:13:17 am
I think the new weapon thing some people were mentioning is a marketplace bug.

I've gotten the purple text on my balanced sword of war, and that isn't fully heirloomed however I don't have a 'new' version of the sword in my inventory.

Unless I got screwed out of the buff!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 17, 2011, 12:36:43 am
I think the new weapon thing somepeople were mentioning is a marketplace bug.

I've gotten it on my balanced sword of war, and that isn't fully heirloomed yet I don't have a 'new' version of the sword in my inventory.

Unless I got screwed out of the buff!

My cav guy who got the new weapons wasn't my main so he cant use the market place
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ManOfWar on May 17, 2011, 12:46:40 am
I still have not received this dam message :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rhaelys on May 17, 2011, 01:02:58 am
I still have not received this dam message :(

Let us wallow in our collective sadness.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Reinhardt on May 17, 2011, 01:05:11 am
Oh damn...

Any more ideas anyone?


Perhaps reduction in the chances of gear breaking and repairing?


And what does knowledge of items do?

How about we do a example in real life.
Your used to an item and you know how it works. What will change that? Let's look at the item stats in game.

Weight: Obviously can't change. If you know how to handle a weapon it won't get lighter?

Weapon length: Also can't be changed, makes sense.

Difficulty: Now that i think about it.... this one would make sense! Haven't thought about a difficulty drop. And this is testable, right?

Speed rating: Possible. You know how to handle an item and are more proficient with it, thus you can use it faster.

Damage: I don't see how this can affect the base damage, but knowing how to use your weapon IRL would make it more usefull, maybe in-game it would change the base damage. Possible.

Slots: I can't think up of anything how this can be changed if you use your item more. Actually this can't be applied IRL?

I'm probally missing some stats from ranged projectiles and armor, but if it is one thing, it's a stat that is on every item... which would be either difficulty or weight.
Remember, this is only a speculation if the chadztext would change any of the item stats. We don't even know yet if it does that.

Or it's a reduction in the chances of gear breaking, or maybe even a lower cost for the broken gear, like -2% each time or something.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 17, 2011, 02:02:32 am
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Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 17, 2011, 03:41:52 pm
Remember guys, chadz is posting carrots!

I like where this is going...  :lol:

I can think three things of this:

-There will come a feature where you can sharpen/emblunten(?) your weapon, raising it's damage.

-The chadztext has something to do with damage.

-chadz is trolling and/or laughing about the idea. ( Highly possible.)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blondin on May 17, 2011, 04:46:21 pm
Polobow, chadzext work also with armor, so on this one i bet third option, hardly trolling...

Imo, chadzext is related to Strategus, nobody have seen change in cRpg (even ppl who got it 10 times).
I'm pretty sure this is about crafting.
chadz said that you have a better knowledge of your equipment, i bet that this will allow you to craft better equipment, may be even heirloom (so the more you have chadzext the more you can craft high heirloom).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Keshian on May 17, 2011, 05:08:39 pm
Let us wallow in our collective sadness.

**wallowing** :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Phew on May 17, 2011, 05:28:04 pm
I got this message for the first time yesterday, unfortunately while wearing peasant crap. It was during the like 1% of the time I didn't have my Powerful Great Long Bardiche equipped. Coincidence, maybe.

My bet is that it has something to do with 'unlocking' gear for Strategus.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Odiouspox on May 17, 2011, 05:53:50 pm
All thine hard work payeth off. Thou art hast a better understanding of the weapons in thine hand and armour on thy skin.

When I last received this text, I shrugged it off, thinking "Just another donkey troll".

The events that proceeded in the moments after changed my life forever.

"F*ck you chadz filthy donkeytroll." I mumbled. Click ...click ...click, I continued with my noobish spamming. Click ...click...sip some coffee, click..... click.... spit  sppppiitttttt "Arrrgh wtf this coffee taste like donkey", I had known this from my previous experience with donkeys, quickly I sat my world's biggest jackoff coffee cup down on the desk. "Wtf" I pondered,"this was creme flavored ten minutes ago".

Click ....click...
All thine hard work payeth off. Thou art hast a better understanding of the weapons in thine hand and armour on thy skin.

The message AGAIN, the f*cking force is in me, I mean with me, anyhow just that moment my coffee cup began to violently vibrate. Coffee spewing out everywhere, in fact  more coffee than the cup could contain. With an enormous thunder clap my cup exploded in half, I came out from under my desk as the steam cleared, where my coffee cup once sat a small donkey now stood.

"Ch...Ch..chadz?" I asked.

"yes" the 12 inch tall ass replied with a godlike thunderous voice.

"W-what the f*ck do you want" I asked.

"Did you not receive my message?" the donkey thundered "You are such a spamming noob, the game has summoned me forth to teach you how the f*ck to use thine weapons and armor"

Over the next few hours, the jackass using several torture techniques, attempted to train me.

It was only when a group of archers crying about a nerf somewhere in the world caught his attention that I was able to escape my home with my spare laptop.

I now reside under random bridges, switching locations in the hopes that chadz will not locate me.



Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 17, 2011, 05:56:41 pm
(click to show/hide)

Yes Sir!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 17, 2011, 06:44:31 pm
Odiouspox, i have known 2 other people who had the same fate! I heard a rumour where they found each other and making a basement... but i do not know where! Try to contact them... and start the revolution!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 17, 2011, 06:53:38 pm
The Frankonian Revolution
is my plan, is my vision...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 17, 2011, 10:31:24 pm
i was able to equip it at 14 str.. fought a round with it. relogged and now I can not longer equip it having 14 str. thoguht i was on to something
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ThePoopy on May 17, 2011, 10:47:19 pm
thats a marketplace bugg, i have 2 mighty and 1 mw poleaxes
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 17, 2011, 10:51:49 pm
let's confirm this, have people who have more weapons used the marketplace, i haven't, i've had this text twice post patch and i don't have any new weapons or see any difference in anything...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 17, 2011, 11:03:25 pm
I have never used the marketplace. Why would the axe appear few mins after seeing that message and mirror the weapon i was using at the time... then when i retire and loom the weapon to change the name of the random weapon that appeared?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 17, 2011, 11:13:56 pm
hmm, this is getting more confusing by the day... :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Chaos on May 17, 2011, 11:14:42 pm
I've had the same experience Bale. I just got the message a few hours ago and I just checked my inventory on the site and suddenly I have the well-bred courser i was using at the time as well as a heavy courser. I've never used the marketplace.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 17, 2011, 11:21:05 pm
so if this is the case and it produces new and better items, is the reason i'm not getting any new items due to the fact i'm getting the bonus on already fully heirloomed items, plus is there something else to this other than new items, or are the new items a bug, i would really like some confirmation on this, because this seems like a whole new reason to retire...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ThePoopy on May 17, 2011, 11:24:34 pm
ive never had the message
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rhaelys on May 17, 2011, 11:27:53 pm
I've had the same experience Bale. I just got the message a few hours ago and I just checked my inventory on the site and suddenly I have the well-bred courser i was using at the time as well as a heavy courser. I've never used the marketplace.

This is incorrect. I've never got the message, but I have a Masterwork Poleaxe and two Mighty Poleaxes. The extra/different heirloomed items is simply a display/site bug of sorts, and has nothing to do with the message.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dragonette on May 17, 2011, 11:45:36 pm
I got the message today while playing DTV.  I was second highest on kills and had no heirloomed items on.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Chaos on May 17, 2011, 11:56:18 pm
And if you get the item bug do not sell the bugged one or else you lose both :'(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 18, 2011, 01:35:09 am
This is incorrect. I've never got the message, but I have a Masterwork Poleaxe and two Mighty Poleaxes. The extra/different heirloomed items is simply a display/site bug of sorts, and has nothing to do with the message.

maybe so.. but why would the stats be different? Even named Scary Great Axe? When that item does not exist.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 18, 2011, 01:56:16 am
That is strange,but I've only heard of that example (and the example about the courser) over the entire life of this thread.  Both of your experiences came after the marketplace was opened even if you say you haven't bought anything.  If the buff was something that we could see on the site I think people would have figured it out by now.  I know that I went through all the items I wore when I got the message and compared them to stats found buying new equipment etc.

Of course you could be correct and everyone else could be bugged (seriously).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rhaelys on May 18, 2011, 02:11:44 am
maybe so.. but why would the stats be different? Even named Scary Great Axe? When that item does not exist.

Those were the old heirloom modifiers. This is easy to verify: In the case of the poleaxes, the Masterwork heirloom modifier does not even exist anymore. And one of the Mighty modifiers is from a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 18, 2011, 04:06:00 am
ok then my last argument for it....

on the website for my main if I put the mighty great axe in the spawn build and look it says the mighty great axe takes up one slot.

on my alt character i also have a great axe just reg version and that says it takes up 2 slots when i put it in the build.

Why would that be different?

The two axes in my inventory have different str reqs. The new and better one is 14 str and the regular is 15. If I can equip it at 14 str will tell me I imagine. I have 7 and climbing. I can prove or disprove myself in a few more lvls I guess.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rhaelys on May 18, 2011, 04:32:03 am
ok then my last argument for it....

on the website for my main if I put the mighty great axe in the spawn build and look it says the mighty great axe takes up one slot.

on my alt character i also have a great axe just reg version and that says it takes up 2 slots when i put it in the build.

Why would that be different?

The two axes in my inventory have different str reqs. The new and better one is 14 str and the regular is 15. If I can equip it at 14 str will tell me I imagine. I have 7 and climbing. I can prove or disprove myself in a few more lvls I guess.

The mighty great axe which takes one slot takes one slot because it was from before the slot change. Obviously, it can't be one slot since great axes are two slots.

I honestly don't understand what you're trying to get at here. The extra heirloomed items you may or may not have in your inventory is a clear bug, but completely unrelated to the mysterious message.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jacko on May 18, 2011, 03:41:59 pm
Strategus, crafting, looms, abundance, nothing to do with regular c-RPG. The display bugs on the equipment page has nothing to do with the message. It's already been written a good while back, stop arguing about nonsense and go back to grinding! 

Monkeys!

Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 18, 2011, 05:21:34 pm
i was able to equip it at 14 str.. fought a round with it. relogged and now I can not longer equip it having 14 str. thoguht i was on to something
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: La Makina on May 18, 2011, 06:41:47 pm
I get the message while I was visiting the smithshop in a village. I was looking at the nicely designed interior of the shop (with armours on a table) and the message appears... I thought it was linked to my touristic visit.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Banok on May 18, 2011, 07:37:35 pm
sounds bugged to me.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 18, 2011, 08:31:10 pm
I think chadz needs to tell us what it does so we can help with the debugging process  :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 18, 2011, 09:29:30 pm
ive never had the message
me too, seems its really only for lower levels. mh, another reason to retire someday. but not to soon. perhaps Ill start another alt instead.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BaleOhay on May 18, 2011, 10:51:15 pm
i got it at lvl 30. I was about 1 mil from hitting 31. Logged into duel server.. did not fight anyway yet.. took 2-3 steps and got it as I was looking for a duel.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: CoWorm on May 18, 2011, 10:51:37 pm
me too, seems its really only for lower levels. mh, another reason to retire someday. but not to soon. perhaps Ill start another alt instead.

I've had it twice that I've noticed, both at level 30, but I guess that still might be considered lower levels.
Can't possible be linked to doing well in any aspect of the game considering I've gotten it twice though.

Edit: Also since I'm new and have never retired and thus don't have any heirlooms I can debunk the getting heirlooms in your inventory theory, since i still don't have any.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on May 19, 2011, 09:29:14 am
I retired just to see this message and played the entire gen up until now (almost 30) with the same gear.
I never got this message. Maybe it has to do with my already loomed gear? (Lordly Armor, MW LHB)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 19, 2011, 10:10:12 am
Got it the 11th time tonight while playing on Tunatown.  Hope it does something good.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 19, 2011, 12:02:07 pm
maybe its only there when you have no loomed stuff with you?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Rhaelys on May 19, 2011, 12:04:24 pm
Got it the 11th time tonight while playing on Tunatown.  Hope it does something good.

FUUUUUUUUU

I have never gotten the message.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blondin on May 19, 2011, 02:45:49 pm
chadz said that there is a random factor, i guess some are more lucky than other...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on May 19, 2011, 04:12:03 pm
i think you need to survive the round aswell, i don't think anyone has got this whilst waiting to respawn...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Belatu on May 19, 2011, 04:38:29 pm
It is the LOOT  :shock: :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Odiouspox on May 19, 2011, 05:15:24 pm
It is the LOOT  :shock: :shock: :shock:


Your avatar picture bugs me. Not sure why. Maybe I have a irrational fear of penis nose.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: La Makina on May 19, 2011, 05:56:54 pm
Now we discuss about this and I see in my equipment list that my 3x Great Axe (a.k.a "Titus My Best Friend", the weapon I use the most) has a little sister:

Mighty Great Axe
weight 4
requirement 14
spd rtng 95
weapon length 96
swing damage 49, cut
thrust damage 0 pierce
Sell for 3,247

FYI, my normal Mighty Great Axe:
weapon length: 96
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 96
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut
Sell for 6,612

Obviously the cheaper sell price could indicate a lower upkeep cost (but I cannot confirm) but the thing is that I cannot select it when I play: there is just one Great Axe, the normal one, in the list (but I have also too much gears and many stuff don't appear in the list, that might be the reason).

My theory is "THAT" could be the compensation to the last heirloom buff: some stats boost when playing.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blondin on May 19, 2011, 06:01:25 pm
Multiple. Items is a bug, a lot of ppl who never had the message still have double items (with one they can't use) btw don't try to sell the double item it will delete both... (Check bug report, there is many thread about this bug, devs are working on it).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: La Makina on May 19, 2011, 06:04:44 pm
Ha, thanks for the tip. I was indeed thinking of making something stupid.
Of course... 49c... I could still dream on!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: HarunYahya on May 20, 2011, 05:46:05 am
I feel like a poor guy on Jigsaw play house cuz of this damn text.
chadz is watching our worthless efforts to solve the puzzle and trolololing behind mirrored windows. We will not be able to solve the puzzle and he'll keep mindfucking us badly :(
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 20, 2011, 05:54:57 am
I feel like a poor guy on Jigsaw play house cuz of this damn text.
chadz is watching our worthless efforts to solve the puzzle and trolololing behind mirrored windows. We will not be able to solve the puzzle and he'll keep mindfucking us badly :(
(click to show/hide)

Well that is one creepy image...
Although on another note, my brother hasn't played for a long time but logged into his account again this morning, he had three sets of mail boots, all with slightly worse deteriorations of "brokeness" (couldn't think of a better word).

I'm not 100% sure that this actually relates but... it could help a little...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gorath on May 20, 2011, 06:17:47 am
maybe its only there when you have no loomed stuff with you?

Well I have my MW Mancleaver (warcleaver) on me at all times.  I still wonder if it has to do with wearing the same gear all the time as I never ever change my gear setup on Gorath (Vyrus I do and he's only gotten the message 3 times).
FUUUUUUUUU

I have never gotten the message.

lol.  I dunno, maybe playtime (or lack thereof) has something to do with it as well since I only get like an hour every other night or so anymore.  /shrug
Could be chadz way of rewarding people for having a job/life/kid/going outside once and a while/etc.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 20, 2011, 06:55:33 am
I play more often the last times and did receive it once or twice. (maybe more often, but i did not notice it.)

i have a name-suggestion!
"insext"
"insane + text" (we all will become insane because of it! :( )

but that sounds kinda lame.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mamba on May 20, 2011, 07:35:07 am
I have still no idea what is changed, but I can tell you that many kills or good kd seems to be not required. I got it yesterday again and I had 3 kills 3 deaths.
I am pretty sure it has to do something with the upkeep, or lately im just lucky to have a higher multiplier than normal. Withouth changing my standard gear it seems that I am getting alot more money than before.

Although I can't confirm that because I can't compare my itemprices which seem to not change on the website anyways.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 20, 2011, 07:38:07 am
Just write down how much your stuff costs in repairs. ;)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dragonette on May 21, 2011, 06:25:42 am
just got it again playing siege with 10 people.  Had no heirloomed items on and completely different gear than the first time. 
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: balbaroth on May 21, 2011, 08:47:29 am
i never saw it happen on balb /cry  for sure its totally random , its not k/d related its not because i wear the same gear since months and months , PURE LUCK  :twisted:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: kroxigore on May 21, 2011, 12:19:22 pm
Just write down how much your stuff costs in repairs. ;)

Pointless. The upkeep cost is the same, it's the upkeep frequency that may be different.

It is possible to check that, we just need someone that had it multiple times (like 3+) with the same set and someone that didnt. They each play 100 rounds (or more) and we see who got more money.

If the difference is superieur by 5% (or smth like that), then we found it.

Easy  8-)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: leviatan on May 21, 2011, 12:30:44 pm
I agree with kroxigore, I think it affects the frequency of upkeep. This would make sense as it is a number that is not displayed on the gear or your equipment screen but could still be modified by the developers. From a "better understanding of your gear" perspective this would make sense too: The better you know your equipment the less likely you are to break it. You' ll know not to overstretch your bow or overtire your horse etc. You would be better able to position your shields strong points to raise for damage instead of its weak points or whatever, or where to hit with your sword on armor so it wont get damaged as much are some possible abstractions on this. This would also help customisability as you might be able to wear a bit more expensive gear for longer periods of time. This would even out a bit against heirlooming, where less expensive gear can become better by heirlooming and still be lighter in the process too. If this is true probably a lot of players will start to cry nerf it, even if heirlooming might still be more overpowered :P. I would love it though :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: leviatan on May 21, 2011, 12:32:04 pm
heirlooming takes too long anyway for my low little generation like me (A)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: leviatan on May 21, 2011, 12:33:22 pm
This would also explain the statement by chadz about someone being 99% correct, maybe he just got the percentage wrong or the formula but the underlying concept might be 99% correct. (sorry for this spam)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 21, 2011, 04:10:34 pm
There's an edit button for a reason.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 21, 2011, 04:16:53 pm
Ok, I finally got it in the early hours of this morning (2:30 or something) but some interesting factors I have here are:

Upkeep does not change, don't know about frequency
I bought an heirloomed (Sturdy) Leather Jerkin to replace my old one about 2 hours before.
I was top of the team with a decent K/D (As discussed this has nothing to do with it)
I had just loosed another arrow and hit my target (Tristan, sorry mate) in the face.
I had no recieved any damage thus far
I have not recieved any extra items in my inventory as some people have claimed.
I did have my basic Leather Jerkin and Sturdy Leather Jerkin in my inventory as I cannot sell one without getting rid of the other (I may need to attack a database dev to get rid of my normal leather one).

That's about all the information I can give you.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 22, 2011, 05:31:12 pm
too bad that in a 32 page thread most of the post`s are useless...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Nasturtium on May 22, 2011, 08:07:25 pm
I have no idea how, but I got a free masterwork heavy board shield and a my bardiche lost its unbalanced, in fact, I dont want to know how  :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mamba on May 22, 2011, 08:12:44 pm
too bad that in a 32 page thread most of the post`s are useless...
Exactly my thought!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: King Ahab on May 22, 2011, 10:52:35 pm
Maybe it's like a hidden achievement... kill x enemies with a weapon, catch x damage with your armor or shield? Something like that?
chadz said earlier on that it was obvious, so maybe it's like this?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 23, 2011, 03:48:32 am
The thing is, you can't kill people while you are dead, and some people have gotten the message after they are dead.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: King Ahab on May 23, 2011, 02:40:28 pm
Yes, you can't, but catching an x amount of damage could be achieved when dying.. so the message would pop up whilst waiting to respawn?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on May 23, 2011, 05:10:55 pm
No matter what it is, the random factor makes it...well...random.

Me, for one, i havent seen this message not once on any of my chars, all possible levels, different gear sets both loomed/unloomed, and still waiting for the purple fu*ker to pop up ...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Phazey on May 23, 2011, 05:42:27 pm
still waiting for the purple fu*ker to pop up ...
Yeh, i was also getting a little frustrated not getting that text. Had it last night on a level 30 alt. Still no clue what causes it.

Got it on the duel server, if i recall correctly. What would that mean...?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lorenzo on May 25, 2011, 05:08:42 am
Do not abandon this thread!

We want awnsers!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Vibe on May 25, 2011, 08:13:13 am
Got it on my alt yesterday on a DTV server.

No new items appeared.
Still I believe it has something to do with armor wpf reduction reduction.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BlackWhite on May 25, 2011, 09:34:27 am
Thought it was a glitch or something but 99% sure I know what it is now... Got this message and some time within the next few rounds I had a "Well bred sumpter(lol) Horse".  It is not on the site so I cannot sell it but I was riding it around in all it's noob horse glory in game. 
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mamba on May 25, 2011, 10:10:08 am
I think having heirloomed items has nothing to do with that messages. I can't remember which patch or what it was. it happened that I somehow had different gear.
It almost looked like the thing that you switch with someone else BUT I owned all my weapons. The Equipment on the armorside was not mine.

Also I had 3 heirloomed horses. Plated charger mamluke and a champion arabian horse. I was able to use everything, except the champion arabian horse wasn't really there.
Maybe that item appearing thing is another bug or it indeed has something to do with the feature, but the message and what happens causes a problem or has a bug.

Like many people write, they seem to have one or another weird item they never had before.

If thats a bug and really is related to that feature I would say it really decreases upkeep rather than reducing wpf from armor, because people get all kinds of items, weapons+armors.
Thats just speculation though.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 25, 2011, 04:39:18 pm
I did not get any new item when I received the message for any of my characters, this I can say with confidence.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 25, 2011, 04:57:57 pm
Got it 9 times in total.

And believe it or not. 3 TIMES TODAY!

2 times on Battle with Strawhat, Tunic with vest, stones, scythe, wrapping boots and also the same as the other one but with Pike and without strawhat. And 1 time on duel servers with Novogrod Helm, Sarranid Elite Armor, Lamellar Gauntlets, Bec de Corbin and Sarranid Mail Boots.

I do not know what this does  :shock:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 25, 2011, 04:58:53 pm
so are people getting it on their alts or main? or both?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 25, 2011, 05:14:16 pm
Got it 9 times in total.

And believe it or not. 3 TIMES TODAY!

2 times on Battle with Strawhat, Tunic with vest, stones, scythe, wrapping boots and also the same as the other one but with Pike and without strawhat. And 1 time on duel servers with Novogrod Helm, Sarranid Elite Armor, Lamellar Gauntlets, Bec de Corbin and Sarranid Mail Boots.

I do not know what this does  :shock:
Code: [Select]
Lamellar Gauntlets 3
Sarranid Mail Boots 3
Sarranid Elite Armor 3
Novogrod Helm 3
Bec de Corbin 3
Wrapping Boots 2
Tunic with vest 2
Straw Hat 2
Stones 2
Scythe 2
Red Wisby Gauntlets 1
Rus Cavalry Boots 1
Khergit Lamellar Vest 1
Khergit Cavalry Helmet 1
Pike 1
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Punisher on May 25, 2011, 05:22:16 pm
Must be related to leveling, I have been wearing the same gear for the past month or so (accumulated almost 8 million xp in the process) but didn't level up so I never got it. Either that or I am incredibly unlucky.

Definetly not related to kills or k/d ratio.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Nessaj on May 25, 2011, 05:28:00 pm
Had it twice.

Once prior to level 25, once on level 30.

Never since level 31 (2 mill to 32).

I hope the text is not a reason to retire though :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Xol! on May 25, 2011, 05:34:05 pm
Code: [Select]
Lamellar Gauntlets 3
Sarranid Mail Boots 3
Sarranid Elite Armor 3
Novogrod Helm 3
Bec de Corbin 3
Wrapping Boots 2
Tunic with vest 2
Straw Hat 2
Stones 2
Scythe 2
Red Wisby Gauntlets 1
Rus Cavalry Boots 1
Khergit Lamellar Vest 1
Khergit Cavalry Helmet 1
Pike 1

FFFFFF-

(is there any way you could tell me mine?  I've been panicking because I got it with a weapon I hardly ever use)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 25, 2011, 05:45:08 pm
Code: [Select]
Lamellar Gauntlets 3
Sarranid Mail Boots 3
Sarranid Elite Armor 3
Novogrod Helm 3
Bec de Corbin 3
Wrapping Boots 2
Tunic with vest 2
Straw Hat 2
Stones 2
Scythe 2
Red Wisby Gauntlets 1
Rus Cavalry Boots 1
Khergit Lamellar Vest 1
Khergit Cavalry Helmet 1
Pike 1

Oh right. On this char alone yes. However i was counting my old Lord Berenger Gen 4 character who sadly i had to delete because of the Skip the Fun bug. But on this char alone yes it should be 3 times.



Also atleast tell me 1 thing. Since we don't know what this does would you advice me to keep 1 of these sets instead of selling? If they really are special so to speak.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 25, 2011, 05:46:56 pm
FFFFFF-

(is there any way you could tell me mine?  I've been panicking because I got it with a weapon I hardly ever use)

I agree - even though I don't know what it does it would be great to have some way to see what items have what.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on May 25, 2011, 05:47:40 pm
Also atleast tell me 1 thing. Since we don't know what this does would you advice me to keep 1 of these sets instead of selling? If they really are special so to speak.

Those are very low stats, no harm in using something else.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Spawny on May 25, 2011, 06:06:08 pm
I have yet to get it.

Must be related to leveling, I have been wearing the same gear for the past month or so (accumulated almost 8 million xp in the process) but didn't level up so I never got it. Either that or I am incredibly unlucky.

Definetly not related to kills or k/d ratio.

Guess you're unlucky, I've leveled 26 times since this text was first seen.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 25, 2011, 06:14:00 pm
Those are very low stats, no harm in using something else.

Aha! Gotcha! So you pretty much confirm the pink text gives the current gear the player used a slight gear boost, a very very small boost but still a gear boost? Hmm wish i had Lordly Black Armor =/
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Joker86 on May 25, 2011, 06:14:17 pm
I didn't read the entire thread, but does it make the items "overjump" heirloom stages? means that with the value of "3" you can heirloom something from normal to masterwork?

But actually I doubt it, as it would be too powerful.  :?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 25, 2011, 06:17:57 pm
Those are very low stats, no harm in using something else.

I guess it's percent based then? 1 cut or 1 speed is actually the same as a heirloom point. Unless you think heirlooms are also very low stat changes.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Nessaj on May 25, 2011, 06:27:22 pm
Anyone above level 31 (or level 31) seen the text?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on May 25, 2011, 06:33:18 pm
guess, better gear u have, less chance u have to get it
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on May 25, 2011, 06:44:28 pm
guess, better gear u have, less chance u have to get it

But the better it is. Since the bonus gained seems to be in percentage of the base item (whatever base stat we take, or whatever other base item related thing we take)

Although i play a light gear archer, and from lv28 to 31, i never had this pink text even once.  :shock: So probably also related to level. The higher the level, the less chance to get it, probably.
I guess i'll be furious when i get it at lv10 with peasant gear.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 25, 2011, 06:57:43 pm
Anyone above level 31 (or level 31) seen the text?
me not.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tor! on May 25, 2011, 07:01:14 pm
Anyone above level 31 (or level 31) seen the text?

Nop. :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on May 25, 2011, 08:13:20 pm
*raises hand* I have a question!

Is the buff tied to the player, or to the piece of equipment?  For example, suppose I sold my spiked helm that I know has '1' of these buffs on it, and swapped it for an identical helm in the market.  Would the new helm I bought retain the buff (tied to player) or would the buyer of my helm have unknowingly gotten a buffed version (tied to item)?

If it's the latter I think it's really important that it is reflected somewhere on the item.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: RandomDude on May 25, 2011, 08:51:04 pm
I just got the msg for the first time yesterday (i'd begun to wonder if it had been taken out).

I was playing DTV and using Barbutte, Sarranid Guard Armour, Mail Gauntlets, Mail Chausses and Masterwork Flamberge.

I was lvl 30 and i think i had 300 kills for 6 deaths.

I alternate between that setup and Lordly Gothic Plate/Most expensive boots/gloves + Full Sallet so maybe gear cost is a factor as someone else mentioned.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blondin on May 26, 2011, 12:08:29 am
I really think this is related to crafting, now i try to understand how?

The ¨stats¨ released by chadz show that we gain level per weapons, that could means that by lvl 1 you are able to craft this specific type of weapon and each level allow you to craft 1 grade of heirloom (but chadz said too that this is low stats so it may needs more levels for 1 grade of loom...).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on May 26, 2011, 12:45:13 am
Okay, let's make another summary, correct me if i'm wrong, i'll edit. It would be great too if the op could edit his post to provide answers to the newcomers.

What we're sure off : (and info given by chadz who seems reliable)
It has NOTHING to do with the appearance of double items. That's just a bug, don't sell neither of them.
A pink message appears : "All thine hard work payeth off. Thou now hast a better understanding of the weapons in thine arms and armor on thy skin"

Why should we be happy to get one ? : Cause it's a very, very good thing.
What it does :               It's self explanatory, isn't it? + the better the merrier, only one is close to useless + one post at least got 90% right(helps a lot, right ?)
What gets a bonus :     All your current equipement, horse and weapons included
What it is for :               <@chadz|afk> it's an attempt to go away from the excel-min-maxing, towards a roleplaying game
What should we do :    Try to concentrate the bonus on the same set.
How to get it :               Theres a random component + easier when lower level than 30
How long does it last :  It's permanent !

What we discovered :
How to get it : (By playing often, duh ! :P )
Easier with low cost gear.
Unrelated to k/d, multiplier, mod (works in DTV, duel, siege and battle), being alive (?)(some said they had it when dead, even if i'm a bit unsure of that).
Unrelated to playing our main character or an alt.
What does it do :
Nobody can see it on their character page.
It doesn't lower the repair cost. People tend to think it decreases the repairing frequency, but no valid experiment there.
It actually forces us to think about its effect, causing us a big trauma.

What i speculate :
What does it do :
It's not related to cRPG but to stratgus.
The more "points" you have for an equipment, the less ressources you'll need to craft it, and the better the quality (heirloomed item possible to craft)
How to get it :
No other idea.  :shock:
Just keep playing as usual with a gear you like, and don't worry about it.

Hope it helps. If yes, it's a pleasure.  :wink:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: LordBerenger on May 26, 2011, 12:49:47 am
Eh the stuff chadz wrote on the list was not about how much you gain but he showcased how many times and what exact gear i was using when i got the pink text. I said 9 times but that was all combines with the other chars as well.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on May 26, 2011, 11:06:43 am
I normally wear the black ( sarranid? ) boots, but now i have better black boots in my equipment. I cant remember if i bought it ( maybe because of too much beer  :wink: ). But on the other side, i cant remember for this message. So its NOT possible to look somewhere, if i already got this message???
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 26, 2011, 11:25:52 am
I normally wear the black ( sarranid? ) boots,

Khergit Leather Boots. <3
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blondin on May 26, 2011, 01:34:48 pm
+1 for Bulzur

And yeah, can the OP updated first post and write in caps that the appearance of double items or new items is a bug...

There is plenty of thread about this bug and ppl continue to write in this thread that they think that chadzext gave them a new equip...
Guys wake up, learn to read, it's a fuckin'bug, you can't use this new weapon and if you sell it you will lose both, but plz stop writing in this thread!!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 26, 2011, 03:15:45 pm
(click to show/hide)
yeah, I have the feeling it's related to the new strategus economy, it's random but you have more chance to trigger, it with low tier gears, it hits when you are near just after a level up and it's needed to differentiate the boredom of having all clans using the same kind of armors in strategus
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Freland on May 26, 2011, 03:19:46 pm
Nice summary bulzur. Thanks
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Azual on May 26, 2011, 05:49:02 pm
got this today 2mil to 31, can't remember what I was wearing  :|
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Appe on May 26, 2011, 06:24:50 pm
Maybe it's for equipping your troops in strategus with heirloomed weapons and armors?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Banok on May 26, 2011, 07:23:32 pm
bulzur prolly right, prolly related to strategus/crafting. good idea
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Keshian on May 26, 2011, 07:30:28 pm
I can't believe people are still writing things in this thread 35 pages later.  it really doesn't matter, and if it does then there is no point speculating as its random so just let chadz get around to telling what it is and forget about it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on May 26, 2011, 08:47:50 pm
I just got it while 0-0 on a messed up map in which the teams can't reach each other.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Ledrion on May 26, 2011, 11:06:43 pm
Maybe it just does a random check on a timer. eg. if RAND <= (some ultra-low percentage chance)(a modifier(s) perhaps) then apply bonus. Checks on a set interval.
I just don't think it is an event trigger because eventually what it was would get out and that's all people would do. From what I can gleem about chadz he does not like that sort of thing and would have planned against it.
I remember he said he wanted to implement something where you got better at your weapon/armor the more you used it a long time ago so he has plenty of time to think about how it would work.
I personally think it does no stat change. It just a reminder, a little pat on the back so to speak, that lets you know that 'THOU' have gotten better at using that equipment, not that the avatar got any bonuses. Or at least like to think so.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Diavolo on May 26, 2011, 11:28:43 pm
Perhaps its based on using the exact same equipment for a long time? Then you get a small boost to the attributes of the equipment you are currently using. (my guess)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Wrenaq_Lars on May 26, 2011, 11:44:43 pm
I got it today wonder what it is :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 26, 2011, 11:47:19 pm
I can't believe people are still writing things in this thread 35 pages later.  it really doesn't matter, and if it does then there is no point speculating as its random so just let chadz get around to telling what it is and forget about it.
We like to entertain chadz with our theories because an happy chadz is a coding chadz
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dach on May 27, 2011, 03:05:08 am
Perhaps its based on using the exact same equipment for a long time? Then you get a small boost to the attributes of the equipment you are currently using. (my guess)

TOTALLY NOT!

finally joined the VIP club... first time i got it!  :D

Had just started my new generation, first round of play... I'm only wearing leather gloves and the 2h wooden practice sword. I've just buyed the practice sword, never played with since I started playing C-RPG!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on May 27, 2011, 07:12:47 am
has anyone had it when their gen 1?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Phazey on May 27, 2011, 11:46:26 am
has anyone had it when their gen 1?
Yep, on the duel server with my gen 1 polespammer Phazhe.

Good summary Bulzur, +1.

Moar wild speculation about what this is please?  :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Oldsnake on May 27, 2011, 01:18:39 pm
I don't think this text is related to strategus. How can they put a random skill (like crafting) and randomize that? It's really silly.
It has to be something related to ur char and equip, something like ur specific equip gets better, or u get better while wearing that specific equip.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 27, 2011, 02:02:34 pm
has anyone had it when their gen 1?

Had it once on generation 1, battle server. Level 29.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 27, 2011, 02:10:17 pm
I can't believe people are still writing things in this thread 35 pages later.  it really doesn't matter, and if it does then there is no point speculating as its random so just let chadz get around to telling what it is and forget about it.

As long as there's a mystery people will want to speculate =o

It doesn't hurt, at least.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Frell on May 27, 2011, 07:01:22 pm
i just got this message, got no item though
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on May 27, 2011, 07:02:47 pm
havent seen this message over week, maybe because im lvl 32?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: lenjurik on May 28, 2011, 12:48:44 am
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 (http://www.picamatic.com/view/7588246_2011-05-27_00001/)

got it earlier today on dtv, gen 2 lvl 22
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 28, 2011, 01:49:37 am
had it today... and i was using the bamboo-spear that i didnt use since a while. thats been the only change.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Camaris on May 28, 2011, 02:01:59 am
Had it three times this generation. Once with bad gear two times while wearing my best gear. ;)
Whatever it is. If its a good thing im a happy man.

Actually i got it two times while doing nothing.
Once as defender on siege while waiting for attackers.
Once on battle while i was dead on the end of the round.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Malaclypse on May 29, 2011, 02:17:13 am
Have gotten it multiple times on my main, and once on two different alts. Was playing for crap most times. My main wound up with a Masterwork War Cleaver in game, out of nowhere, and not on the site, not that I think it has anything to do with it really.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Glyph on May 29, 2011, 12:19:27 pm
maybe when you use a weapon where you don't have wpf in? and than have a good k/d?

i got it too, yesterday, normal day
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gurnisson on May 29, 2011, 12:46:57 pm
Never got it, actually.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Wrenaq_Lars on May 29, 2011, 12:52:39 pm
maybe when you use a weapon where you don't have wpf in? and than have a good k/d?

i got it too, yesterday, normal day

nah got it twice now and didnt use a weapon i didnt have wpf in
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on May 29, 2011, 04:47:06 pm
Now that i think about it.. chadz hasn't given carrots for some time. People, start posting those donkeys again!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tennenoth on May 29, 2011, 06:10:24 pm
A member of my clan recieved this twice within 2 minutes, he was on the duel server and neither time was he actually in battle, while I recieved it later that evening over two maps.

Nothing special was happening, I jumped off a roof to get away from an enemy, took damage but survived and legged it, basically as soon as I was safe, I got the message (cowardly cowardly Tenne as per normal) and the second time a map later, I shot Cicero in the arse as he was reloading his crossbow. I'm beginning to think this whole thing is just on a random timer or something.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bjord on May 29, 2011, 07:06:33 pm
I wonder if it's to encourage more variety in armour customization? Well, it's obvious that it is, but I'm still stroking my fake beard in contemplation about this.

chadz mentioned, he wanted to decrease grinding and increase the creative roleplaying aspect. In my ears, this sounds like the more you wear an armour the more benefits you get. Or a combination of doing well in the battlefield, time spent with that armour and a set of random algorithms.

Whichever, another great add-on for sure.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lezard on May 29, 2011, 10:41:49 pm
Got it twice. Once on my lvl 30 glaive spammer when I was getting spam kills like crazy, got it close to end of round with 24:0 kdr.

Other time I got it 5 mins in when I had just jumped to 30 (with skip the fun) and had a kdr of 8:0.

Didn't notice any difference at all.

Also, I bet this post didn't make anyone closer to finding out the secret.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Glyph on May 30, 2011, 07:25:46 am
i did use it when i used an armor that probably no one else would use qau combination:
nordic fighter helm, mail with surcoat. the price differences are pretty big so pretty original too.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on May 30, 2011, 07:41:58 am
Bere i always wear Khergit Leather Boots. compared to my Heraldic Transitional and the Sallet with Visor (and Coif) the Boots are really low. And I did notice the message only twice.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on May 30, 2011, 07:48:41 am
i did use it when i used an armor that probably no one else would use qau combination:
nordic fighter helm, mail with surcoat. the price differences are pretty big so pretty original too.
originality in the equipment choice was my first thought about trigger possibility, but it sounds pretty hard to be
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on May 30, 2011, 10:22:58 am
Hmm. I played my char with the same equipment for a whole generation. I leveled him till half of level 31 and i still did not get that message. Either that or i got it when i was alt-tabbed and did not notice. Sad-Sonja is sad.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cris on May 30, 2011, 12:10:29 pm
I got this a couple of days ago...

I can only say that I have a higher than average KD ratio and always take a long time to die (HA perks :D), maybe that helps trigger it...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 31, 2011, 05:36:21 am
I wasn't paying attention 100% so I don't know if I got the message again or an admin trolling and imitating the message so I'm not sure if I got it again or not. I'm fairly sure I did though.

On the website my balance war spear appears as a tempered war spear... which is similar to what I was sexperiencing when I got the message the first/second time

EDIT: It has different stats too. Copy pasting exactly what it says. (deadly war spear taken from retirement screen)
Quote from: Deadly War Spear
weapon length: 150
weight: 1.5
difficulty: 11
speed rating: 96
weapon length: 150
thrust damage: 29 pierce
swing damage: 20 blunt
slots: 2

Quote from: Tempered War Spear
weight 1.5
difficulty 10
spd rtng 98
weapon length 150
swing damage 22, blunt
thrust damage 31, pierce

Have yet to check it ingame though, but I am fairly sure it will show as a Deadly War Spear still
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Banok on May 31, 2011, 08:45:42 pm
first time i got this, on a new char so I got a buffed long dagger? schweet.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: WaltF4 on May 31, 2011, 09:26:24 pm
On the website my balance war spear appears as a tempered war spear...

I do not think this is related to the message. There seems to be a display error for many heirloom polearms that is making outdate modifiers appear. My long awlpike turned into a tempered long awlpike at the second heirloom and was not selectable in game until I spent an additional heirloom point to masterwork it. My twice heirloomed regular awlpike currently shows up as tempered on the website but shows up as balance in game. Another poster started a thread (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,5443.0.html) about his bec de corbin showing up as tempered as well.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torp on May 31, 2011, 11:55:00 pm
Hmm. I played my char with the same equipment for a whole generation. I leveled him till half of level 31 and i still did not get that message. Either that or i got it when i was alt-tabbed and did not notice. Sad-Sonja is sad.

this... im now halfway to 32 and i've given up on getting this :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on June 01, 2011, 12:06:47 am
Don't worry about getting the chadztext while alt-tabbing, you can only get it when you are alive. This is probably the only confirmed thing that we know.

Also I wonder how does it work in the duel server, since many people got it there, because theorically leaving your character sitting there the whole day could get it triggered. Unless of course it happens only when your character is moving/attacking... But then you can just leave the charcter in automove... uhm new frontiers for the leechers
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Delro on June 01, 2011, 12:08:33 am
Don't worry about getting the chadztext while alt-tabbing, you can only get it when you are alive. This is probably the only confirmed thing that we know.

Also I wonder how does it work in the duel server, since many people got it there, because theorically leaving your character sitting there the whole day could get it triggered. Unless of course it happens only when your character is moving/attacking... But then you can just leave the charcter in automove... uhm new frontiers for the leechers

Perhaps you need to be actively engaged in a duel (have pressed "F") for it to have the possibility of triggering?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Astinus on June 01, 2011, 12:23:49 am
Perhaps you need to be actively engaged in a duel (have pressed "F") for it to have the possibility of triggering?
Maybe, but then you just need to find a buddy and start a duel you won't ever end. This of course assuming that you don't need to do anything special and the triggering is just random
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Belhade on June 01, 2011, 01:44:24 am
I saw this for the first time last night, but it was only Geon fucking with us.  :mad:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on June 01, 2011, 09:49:24 am
I still havent gotten this, but on the contrary i got nominated for leeching :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Earthdforce on June 01, 2011, 09:52:52 am
Umm..if you trade something that had this and you buy another version of it back, like..you get this with a balanced longsword, sell it, and then buy a normal longsword, does the new weapon have the boost still?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on June 01, 2011, 09:53:38 am
two people had it today on the Inquisition DTV-Server.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Fleshcutter on June 01, 2011, 06:28:50 pm
I have gotten this message on 2 of my alts but not on my main.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on June 02, 2011, 12:58:48 am
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Now give us another carrot, they've been growing large enough.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mushy on June 02, 2011, 01:02:29 am
Just got it in the duel server, was just going to couch a stray horse. Was not duelling anyone, and im level 24 gen 4. 2nd time I have received the message :p
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: TurmoilTom on June 02, 2011, 01:20:12 pm
Got it twice yesterday on my level 28 gen 1. No noticeable changes as a result, though.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lorenzo on June 02, 2011, 03:14:00 pm
It's kind of nice that people try to keep a tab of how/when/why they got it but since we learned 30 pages ago that this ''has a randon component'' I think it would be best to concentrate your energy to lobby the hell out of the flying mage basterd...

MOAR DONKEY PICS!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lizard_man on June 02, 2011, 04:57:54 pm
(click to show/hide)

here's two screenshots of different times when i've seen this message, both these screenshots have some similarities, same map (not that it matters), both around four minutes, i'm at low health on both, nearing the end of leveling, one person remaining on the enemy team, i'd been dismounted on both and done a fair bit of fighting on foot, not that this helps but i thought i'd post it anyway...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on June 02, 2011, 07:00:32 pm
1 vs 28 (at 3min59) - then 1 vs 15 (at 3min57)... means 13 kills in 2 seconds! you played against chadz, huh?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 02, 2011, 07:15:50 pm
1 vs 28 (at 3min59) - then 1 vs 15 (at 3min57)... means 13 kills in 2 seconds! you played against chadz, huh?

You play on four minute maps? What server does this out of curiosity?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lorenzo on June 03, 2011, 10:03:04 pm
This thread does not belong on page 2!

Dont drop the investigation!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Lord_Panos on June 05, 2011, 09:10:01 am
Dudes we dont care at what level u got that message..stop spamming the f*cking thread...ffs  :evil:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on June 05, 2011, 12:35:54 pm
I didnt get the message, and then one round i decided to go round in peasant gear with a wooden sword. I got it. :evil:
Im gonna enjoy that lovely set bonus.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Classical on June 06, 2011, 10:41:56 am
I got it at level 36, guys.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 06, 2011, 01:55:44 pm
This is what happens every time you try to guess the secret:

(click to show/hide)

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Moen on June 06, 2011, 02:21:35 pm
Hahaha, +1 Son of Odin
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 06, 2011, 07:42:06 pm
Hahaha, +1 Son of Odin

I have to say that the donkey has a good taste when it comes to women :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Glyph on June 06, 2011, 08:21:54 pm
i think he doesn't do that anymore +1
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on June 09, 2011, 04:47:18 pm
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Carrots! Gief them!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 10, 2011, 01:45:59 am
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Carrots! Gief them!
This is what happens every time you try to guess the secret:

(click to show/hide)

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on June 10, 2011, 11:39:35 am
i just wanted to inform all the interested, that even ME finally got it, just once tho, i was alive, lvl like 27 or so:)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 10, 2011, 04:01:30 pm
Welcome to the cool guy club
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Xol! on June 16, 2011, 06:12:03 am
I hate that I switch gear so much.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Malaclypse on June 16, 2011, 06:36:47 am
I hate that I switch gear so much.

I switch gear quite often (usually dress according to the map- desert, I wear sarranid, snow, I wear fur robes and such, cities I wear light shirts/leather) and I've gotten this in multiple gear sets, on multiple characters.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kenji on June 16, 2011, 07:08:15 am
I switch gear quite often (usually dress according to the map- desert, I wear sarranid, snow, I wear fur robes and such, cities I wear light shirts/leather) and I've gotten this in multiple gear sets, on multiple characters.
+1

That's the spirit of being a true cRPG player! Or what chadz originally intended for all of us before turning cRPG into a grind fest, lol.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Socrates on June 20, 2011, 05:44:12 am
Got it 2nd time yesterday. Still need to knows! More carrots chadz.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Belhade on June 20, 2011, 06:40:11 am
I finally got it...first time that I know of. Level 30, gen 2, about 1M away from 31. On NA_Siege, in one of my default gear sets (light mail) with the Langes Messer I bought last week. I was so shocked that I forgot to screenshot it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on June 20, 2011, 09:00:50 pm
*raises hand* I have a question!

Is the buff tied to the player, or to the piece of equipment?  For example, suppose I sold my spiked helm that I know has '1' of these buffs on it, and swapped it for an identical helm in the market.  Would the new helm I bought retain the buff (tied to player) or would the buyer of my helm have unknowingly gotten a buffed version (tied to item)?

If it's the latter I think it's really important that it is reflected somewhere on the item.

I know this thread has been pretty devoid of carrots lately, but this question has prevented me from trying to trade for heirloomed versions of some items I already own.  My mail gauntlets have gotten the 'thine arms' message more than anything else my char owns (I think) and I'd love to trade for heirloomed mail gauntlets but if that means losing the 'thine arms' bonuses then I'll just do it the long way.

Oh chadz, why hast thou forsaken us?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Noldar on June 26, 2011, 06:23:41 am
Just got it again. Third time in three days...but this time it was while I was messing around with medium ladders haha. Do my ladders get longer!?  :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Perceval on June 26, 2011, 12:06:33 pm
<spam>
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dehitay on June 26, 2011, 03:19:11 pm
I got this for the first time (or at least the first time that I was paying attention). I tried asking my friends that play about it, but none of them were online to tell me that they didn't know what it was. So I found this thread and spent about an hour reading through the whole thing cause I enjoy wasting time.

I also got it after wearing the same equipment for a while. I was definitely at the bottom of the scoreboard with 1 kill 7 deaths. I doubt this has anything to do with it, but it was shortly after I made the first kill in a round on Battle. It also wasn't long after I dedicated a main account (never got it before that).

Since chadz said it's an attempt to improve role play, it would make sense that wearing the same equipment set is a trigger. Either that or more knowledge about your equipment is near useless unless you get it on the same equipment multiple times.

We've also been told that there's a random chance and level affects it. My guess is for every level, there's a set number of points (quite possibly just one) where the random chance determines whether to activate or not. If it does, it could just check for other components of the formula, and if everything works out, sends you the message.

I've got some questions for anybody who's had this message and is willing to answer them:
Have you ever gotten this message more than once in a single level? (if so, how many times max?)
Have you ever gotten this message while wearing something other than your default inventory? (betting somebody has, but I was wearing default)
For those that have gotten this while switching armor recently beforehand, do you often wear the armor that you got the message with?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kherr on June 26, 2011, 04:39:55 pm
I've got some questions for anybody who's had this message and is willing to answer them:
Have you ever gotten this message more than once in a single level? (if so, how many times max?)
Have you ever gotten this message while wearing something other than your default inventory? (betting somebody has, but I was wearing default)
For those that have gotten this while switching armor recently beforehand, do you often wear the armor that you got the message with?
Interesting idea.
I got the message two times with my main. If I remember correctly the first time in mid 20 lvls, the 2nd time after retirement end 20 lvls or 30 lvl. Unfortunately I got the message both times with non-standard equipment. Normally I wear more expensive armor... thats my standard equipment. But I switched both times before getting the message to much less expensive equipment. I am not sure... but it should be about 3-5 rounds before the message. I dont have a standard for the less expensive set... I simple equip something cheap.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Noldar on June 26, 2011, 04:56:52 pm
Have you ever gotten this message more than once in a single level? (if so, how many times max?)
Have you ever gotten this message while wearing something other than your default inventory? (betting somebody has, but I was wearing default)
For those that have gotten this while switching armor recently beforehand, do you often wear the armor that you got the message with?

No

Yes. Like I mentioned in my post, I was carrying two ladders which definitely isn't my default

I don't wear any armour
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Christo on June 26, 2011, 05:05:38 pm
(click to show/hide)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on June 28, 2011, 09:59:49 am
So I found this thread and spent about an hour reading through the whole thing cause I enjoy wasting time.

As Philosoraptor would ask: If you enjoyed wasting time, is the time really wasted?

edit: got this already twice on my main and once on my alt, wearing mostly same gear all the time, switching just when noobing around with friends :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jacko on June 28, 2011, 11:52:07 pm
This is a lie. Every post here saying they had it are just trolling.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Noldar on June 29, 2011, 06:22:01 am
4th time in 5 days! :D

only 200k to 31 aswell!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Erathsmus on June 29, 2011, 08:39:08 am
I noticed that you do not get this message on NA_Siege. When I got it for the first time, it was on Battle as an archer, I lived for a few round, and got a message that said thine arrow blah blah. Do you think it is a buff for 1 round?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Noldar on June 29, 2011, 08:41:27 am
Yeah I've only ever got it on battle. Always alive when it happens.

Pretty sure we have established it's permanent.

edit- Should also be noted I don't wear any armour. Warbow, bodkin arrows x 2 and Hammer.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Vibe on June 29, 2011, 08:46:34 am
I got it on a duel server.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justme on June 29, 2011, 08:53:26 am
from lvl 31 to lvl 33 never got it, and still waiting..
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Fasader on June 29, 2011, 09:22:28 am
got it on my alt playing DTV :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: chadz on June 29, 2011, 07:33:59 pm
from lvl 31 to lvl 33 never got it, and still waiting..

You only get it at level 30 or below.

zomg.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: DANK on June 29, 2011, 07:38:19 pm
I noticed that you do not get this message on NA_Siege. When I got it for the first time, it was on Battle as an archer, I lived for a few round, and got a message that said thine arrow blah blah. Do you think it is a buff for 1 round?

Pretty sure you can get it on all servers, and its a permanent buff (still being debated what it does.) I have received the message on DTV, Battle, and Duel Servers, but I don't play siege so idk....
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Voodoox on June 29, 2011, 08:29:01 pm
i got it on siege last night so it works for siege too
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on June 30, 2011, 01:54:02 am
chadztext= smith skill
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dehitay on June 30, 2011, 01:59:58 am
Care to link that, Hunter? Or at least explain why it has the exact same time as Voodox's post?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on June 30, 2011, 02:22:06 am
Care to link that, Hunter? Or at least explain why it has the exact same time as Voodox's post?

lol hunter, try to be nice, give information, and see what happens ? Just don't say anymore things, since they will doubt them till they have a screenshot, or a movie of it.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on June 30, 2011, 03:06:33 am
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9132.105.html

also don't try and call me a liar and i quoted from voodoox because i was to lazy to copy and paste from the other thread
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: PieParadox on June 30, 2011, 04:06:49 am
You only get it at level 30 or below.

zomg.

so we must grind?? NEVER!!!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on June 30, 2011, 11:52:32 am
so we must grind?? NEVER!!!

There's a new feature called respec, wich allows you to be lv30 for your ENTIRE life. No grinding. More pink texts. More fun builds. No more peasants. :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ThePoopy on June 30, 2011, 03:56:37 pm
am i onlyone who have never had this?  :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 30, 2011, 05:18:09 pm
There's a new feature called respec, wich allows you to be lv30 for your ENTIRE life. No grinding. More pink texts. More fun builds. No more peasants. :(

You mean skip the fun?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Xtrah on June 30, 2011, 05:29:32 pm
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I hate this. 2nd time. Bleh.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: DANK on June 30, 2011, 05:34:09 pm
You mean skip the fun?

No he means Respec.

You can now redistribute all of your skill/attribute points at the cost of 50% of your XP.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on June 30, 2011, 05:43:46 pm
respec at cost of 50%xp, you still have to grind the other 50%... And skip the fun will never have chadztext...

Also, info from another thread and from irc:
chadztext give you a +3 on specified item (?) and -1 to all other gear you´re wearing.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jacko on June 30, 2011, 07:21:55 pm
am i onlyone who have never had this?  :(

-We can cuddle up together, taking turns on which shoulder to cry on,  because I have never had it either.

It's all just a scam, really. REALLY.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Panoply on June 30, 2011, 07:46:23 pm
respec at cost of 50%xp, you still have to grind the other 50%... And skip the fun will never have chadztext...

You can respec at level 31 back to level 30, and respec once you hit level 31 again. It's not a grind if you're at level 30 with a fully developed build, you're just playing, but you can essentially stay at level 30 if you really care about the chadztext.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Torben on June 30, 2011, 08:03:39 pm
-We can cuddle up together, taking turns on which shoulder to cry on,  because I have never had it either.

It's all just a scam, really. REALLY.

we only get it up to lvl 30
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jacko on July 01, 2011, 12:24:55 am
Yesh I know, and still, nuthing!

Vojne vojne..
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Voodoox on July 01, 2011, 09:02:59 pm
so do we have a definante understanding of this or did we just give up?

+3 to 1 and -1 to everythign else... in what context im still confused what does that even mean!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tristan on July 01, 2011, 09:06:06 pm
+3 to equipped items. -1 to everything else.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Voodoox on July 01, 2011, 09:09:23 pm
+3 WHAT ? is the question here i know +3 but +3 what i don't see any changes to the weapon states in the equipment screen
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 01, 2011, 09:20:17 pm
+3 WHAT ? is the question here i know +3 but +3 what i don't see any changes to the weapon states in the equipment screen

Smithing in Strategus and finding nuclear vessels
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on July 02, 2011, 05:31:10 am
Smithing in Strategus and finding nuclear vessels

please be so nice and ellaborate with link explaining this smithing thing :D i saw it mentioned in few posts, but havent seen any from which this might have originated...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on July 02, 2011, 01:16:41 pm
chadz answer about smithing available here http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9132.60.html
Quote
This might change a bit, but:
there will be about a dozen raw materials.
Every village has 3 materials it can produce.
the owner can shift the production balance.
the amount of resources produced is defined by the workers in the village.
the workers are other players who get a gold wage, defined and given out by the village owner.

the real item production will then happen in towns.
a town can produce up to 5 goods at the same time.
the village owner can set a smith.
the smith's skill defines of what quality (=heirloom) the produced item is.
the amount of workers in the town (=players) define how many items will be produced.

there will be other (individual) ways of creating weapons, but that will be very slow and not feasable to equip an army with it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Barbas on July 02, 2011, 09:57:23 pm
I noticed that you do not get this message on NA_Siege. When I got it for the first time, it was on Battle as an archer, I lived for a few round, and got a message that said thine arrow blah blah. Do you think it is a buff for 1 round?

I've had it.. I think twice on NA Siege; that's about the only server I play on.


I sure hope it's not smithing skill.  I was really wanting it to be something.. that I would at all care about :(
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Osiris on July 02, 2011, 10:32:03 pm
ive had it on my alts so would suck for it to be strat only :P
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Renay on July 03, 2011, 03:20:40 am
I just got it on my alt, so now I'm curious what it is, but I don't wanna read the whole thread...

Somebody care to explain in one post?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 03, 2011, 03:46:32 am
I just got it on my alt, so now I'm curious what it is, but I don't wanna read the whole thread...

Somebody care to explain in one post?

You get it and you get +3 smith points for everything you are wearing, and -1 to everything else.

You need unknown smith points in Strat to smith heirlooms and fight dragons.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and you can't get this message if you are too high level.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dexxtaa on July 03, 2011, 04:51:09 am
You get it and you get +3 smith points for everything you are wearing, and -1 to everything else.

You need unknown smith points in Strat to smith heirlooms and fight dragons.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and you can't get this message if you are too high level.

heeheehahaahahhahh *wheeze*

Wait hang on are you serious  ?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 03, 2011, 05:04:57 am
heeheehahaahahhahh *wheeze*

Wait hang on are you serious  ?

Everything but the dragon, yes.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on July 03, 2011, 05:06:03 am
Everything but the dragon, yes.

you, sir, made me a sad panda...i love dragons :( :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Renay on July 03, 2011, 01:40:06 pm
You get it and you get +3 smith points for everything you are wearing, and -1 to everything else.

You need unknown smith points in Strat to smith heirlooms and fight dragons.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and you can't get this message if you are too high level.

But it was on an Alt, so I can ignore it for now?

Also, what did I do for it?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 03, 2011, 02:11:06 pm
nothing its just luck.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on July 09, 2011, 11:19:00 pm
I'd like to ask just one thing to all the people who got the "what is that" message. Did you get it with your main, or with an alt, or you hadn't choosed your main at that moment  ?
Cause if it's only with our main, and if we can't see it on cRPG, it's maybe because it's actually a minor buff for strategus. Like you will be able to craft that sort of equipment for less materials. And if you have enough "what is that" message on the same equipment, you might be able to craft an heirloomed version of it.
Thus the fact that clan will more benefit of having a person with a lot of "what is that" message.

I love speculating.

now was that trolling or not :)

also, let me tell you that from what I've seen, at least one person got it 99% right. not gonna tell you who and when/what page, of course :]

I also love being nearly right and read. Anyway, so much for the ego.


How do you get it still seems very random. Surviving in battle seems to help. So need a minimum of time "alive" wearing the equipment, probably.
I've been doing a all new gen, with the same equipment since lv13 (except for the weapon, i like to change it), and never received it. As a polearm, weapons depends on the situation (long spear for open maps, poleaxe if many shielders, ironstaff to spam archers, etc...) so i'll try as a 2h with the EXACT same equipment, weapon included, and i'll see how it goes. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 09, 2011, 11:55:08 pm
I also love being nearly right and read. Anyway, so much for the ego.


How do you get it still seems very random. Surviving in battle seems to help. So need a minimum of time "alive" wearing the equipment, probably.
I've been doing a all new gen, with the same equipment since lv13 (except for the weapon, i like to change it), and never received it. As a polearm, weapons depends on the situation (long spear for open maps, poleaxe if many shielders, ironstaff to spam archers, etc...) so i'll try as a 2h with the EXACT same equipment, weapon included, and i'll see how it goes. Wish me luck.

I got it like 10 sec after i spawned
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Glyph on July 10, 2011, 11:10:11 am
just got it on main, lvl 30, battle
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: KingKessler on July 11, 2011, 01:17:57 pm
i got the text yesterday, but nothing changed... its useless
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Cepeshi on July 11, 2011, 01:19:46 pm
i got the text yesterday, but nothing changed... its useless

it is not, it has a feature in strategus :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Felix on July 11, 2011, 01:22:44 pm
I got new text "Thy valour on battlefield hath been repayed". What does it do?)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Arn_Magnusson on July 11, 2011, 02:20:40 pm
That's funny I get this message on my 19 lvl alt char (All thine work...), that's ridiculos!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on July 11, 2011, 03:11:41 pm
Just got it. But no multiplyer or anything as some said...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on July 11, 2011, 03:14:32 pm
Oh i think i got double xp though. I was on x1 and got 2000xp and 100 gold for this particular round...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Dahobo on July 22, 2011, 07:24:00 am
I just got it! I dont care that its useless I just feel lucky  :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on July 22, 2011, 08:29:20 am
I just got it! I dont care that its useless I just feel lucky  :D

I bet that is what it does. It does not change any numbers anywhere... it just makes people happy. Means theyre motivated. Means they fight better. :D
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 22, 2011, 01:18:49 pm
Learn to read good people, chadztext has been discovered since a long time:
It is for crafting in Strat, it gives you a +3 modifier to all the gear you wear and a -1 to all others.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Generalissimo on July 22, 2011, 04:20:40 pm
Does this mean if someone were to somehow get the message while wearing five completely different sets of gear, they would then have a negative modifier on every item in the game? (-1 on everything worn during the messages, -5 on everything else)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Delro on July 22, 2011, 07:17:28 pm
Does this mean if someone were to somehow get the message while wearing five completely different sets of gear, they would then have a negative modifier on every item in the game? (-1 on everything worn during the messages, -5 on everything else)

The term "set" is simply used to denote the gear you are wearing when you get the text. So it is impossible to wear things from different "sets" at once when you are in fact wearing one set. So for instance, imagine I am wearing:

Pilgrim's Hood
Churburg Cuirass
Light Leather Boots
Mail Gauntlets

And I get the chadztext. These items are now:

Pilgrim's Hood +3
Churburg Cuirass +3
Light Leather Boots +3
Mail Gauntlets +3

And -1 on everything else (whether its everything in my inventory or every item in existence, I do not know.)

Now lets say I got really lucky the next day and got it again, but I was wearing

Nikolosjoe Helm -1
Light Mail and Plate -1
Light Leather Boots +3
Mail Gauntlets +3

Now my items will look like this!

Nikolosjoe Helm +2
Light Mail and Plate +2
Pilgrim's Hood +2
Churburg Cuirass +2
Light Leather Boots +6
Mail Gauntlets +6

You can see how wearing a variety of gear will help raise all of your numbers eventually. If you are interested in being your clan blacksmith, you will want to pay attention to your gear craft bonuses and wear a good mix of items every few rounds (or every time you get the text.) Here's hoping there will be an explicit list we can use for reference that tells us our personal bonuses to craft each item; tracking it in your head or trying to manually calculate it all will be a huge pain in the you-know-what! Especially if you missed a message or two for whatever reason.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Generalissimo on July 22, 2011, 08:57:19 pm
You misunderstood. Say you're an archer and you wear light gear and bow equipment. You get the text. Perhaps you want to change your style up, or you join a clan that has required equipment, and now you're wearing different stuff. You get the text. Next generation you decided to go shield, but maybe with medium armor and a Heater Shield. You get the text again. Perhaps you've leveled up some and have more gold, so you want to try out heavier armor and a better shield to see how you do with it. Then you start using swords instead of picks. You get the text for a fourth time overall, with completely different gear.

If this happens again with yet different equipment, will you then have a negative modifier on every item in the game? Will it reset when you retire? Because it seems to me wearing a variety of gear in the long run will just result in you getting maybe +3 on 5 or 6 items versus -1 for dozens every time you get the text. That's way way way more -1's than +3's over a long period of time.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 22, 2011, 08:59:56 pm
Retiring DOES NOT reset these points... chadz himself said this. Let us just nip that rumor right in the bud there for anyone that says otherwise.

As for the rest, yes it is possible to set your other items down to 0 if you use other stuff too often, this is to promote people rping an identity instead of a flavor of the month, and reward those who stuck it out with just one thing (Like me, using the same crap for the past couple gens). As far as the information has been released, the -1s apply to anything with a positive number, not things that are already at 0.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Generalissimo on July 22, 2011, 09:04:46 pm
Awesome. Thanks for the infodump, Tears.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ShinySpoons on August 24, 2011, 08:55:35 am
IT HAS RETURNED

I got this message today, and at least one other person in all chat had this earlier.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Panoply on August 24, 2011, 08:57:18 am
Oh, I didn't think it was gone. I got it yesterday or the day before in the duel server.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ShinySpoons on August 24, 2011, 09:00:12 am
I believe it was turned off when the valour message was put in. Possibly returned in the latest patch, or if its never gone away, I do not know.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on August 24, 2011, 02:31:26 pm
Pretty sure it's been in all along. I haven't noticed any relent to the newbies' squealing about its apparent enigma and I've had it a few times lately, once the instant I dropped my sword to fist the last guy.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Overdriven on August 24, 2011, 02:33:12 pm
It's still in. Surhay got it twice recently. One with his alt on the duel when we were practicing chambering. The other with his main on DTV.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on August 24, 2011, 09:56:45 pm
It's still in. Surhay got it twice recently. One with his alt on the duel when we were practicing chambering. The other with his main on DTV.
Was that before or after 0.234
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Overdriven on August 24, 2011, 10:48:01 pm
After. Yesterday in fact  :)
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Socrates on August 24, 2011, 11:13:49 pm
Yes it's still on got it on my main and alt 2 days ago
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Polobow on August 24, 2011, 11:24:13 pm
I think it got turned back on after 0.234...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Ankhalas on August 27, 2011, 03:45:01 am
Got it today wearing... :

Straw hat
Leather jerkin
Rus shoes
Leather gloves
Pike
Longsword

 :lol:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Brrrak on August 27, 2011, 05:42:00 am
I haven't gotten a "All thine hard work" message for almost as long as I haven't been laid.

Both are interminable periods of time.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on August 31, 2011, 08:22:38 am
I just got this message again after months and months. I guess there's still no clue about what it does?
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Post by: Vibe on August 31, 2011, 10:50:22 am
I got this message two times in half hour after 1 or 2 months I believe :)
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Post by: Noldar on August 31, 2011, 11:30:29 am
8 times with the same equip :) twice in an hour the other day which was weird!

edit: make that 9!
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Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 31, 2011, 12:04:30 pm
chadz explained it a long ago. I give Weapon smithery skills to produce heirloom item in Strategus:!

Quote
This might change a bit, but:
there will be about a dozen raw materials.
Every village has 3 materials it can produce.
the owner can shift the production balance.
the amount of resources produced is defined by the workers in the village.
the workers are other players who get a gold wage, defined and given out by the village owner.

the real item production will then happen in towns.
a town can produce up to 5 goods at the same time.
the village owner can set a smith.
the smith's skill defines of what quality (=heirloom) the produced item is.
the amount of workers in the town (=players) define how many items will be produced.

there will be other (individual) ways of creating weapons, but that will be very slow and not feasable to equip an army with it.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Kherr on August 31, 2011, 12:43:23 pm
I got the "better understanding of equipment" message now with my "skip the fun" alt at lvl 30 and peasant gear.

So I got it 3 times... every time with peasant gear.
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Post by: VVarlord on August 31, 2011, 12:59:11 pm
I got this yesterday for the first time with...

Huscarls shield
Steel pick
Straw hat
Blue tunic over mail
Leather gloves
Sarrinid leather boots
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: ThePoopy on August 31, 2011, 01:21:47 pm
never had it  :cry:
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Post by: Vibe on August 31, 2011, 01:29:11 pm
never had it  :cry:

grind more  :evil:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Mtemtko on August 31, 2011, 01:41:35 pm
I get it everytime I switch the weapon/build (once a day), apparently I might become the master loom smith in the new strategus  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on August 31, 2011, 07:04:59 pm
I think I got it once with my recent archer gen, and then i've probably gotten it like 3 or 4 times on my shielder build so... yeah. Dunno why, maybe just luck.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: justjr on September 12, 2011, 10:06:05 pm
So, whats that?
(click to show/hide)
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Post by: Glyph on September 13, 2011, 07:36:16 am
i get it about once a day, no w8, i get the other one once a day. this one a few times
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blackzilla on September 26, 2011, 01:08:18 am
Feel free to figure it out, that one is a secret :)

(protip: getting that message is a very, very, good thing)

i got that message!!!
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blackzilla on September 26, 2011, 01:12:23 am
I had 9 kills and two deaths and was at the top of my leaderboard at end of map rotation, I wonder if this needs a 5 K/D ration, or like 15 kills or something...

i got the text after killing three enemies within 7 seconds with my bow. And i think my accuracy has increased by alittle bit and horse has better manuverabuilty.. chadz just tell us.
EDIT: Does it only work for mains? Bcause i was playing a character with an undefined role...
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: MrShine on September 26, 2011, 05:37:54 am
Yeah, you are REALLY late to the party... it's already been answered months ago (a crafting buff in Strat).
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blackzilla on September 26, 2011, 05:40:06 am
oh im noobish to certain things what does craft do in strat?
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on September 26, 2011, 02:02:07 pm
oh im noobish to certain things what does craft do in strat?
When crafting is introduced you will be able to craft heirloomed weapons and armour. Getting that weapon means you get +2 +3 on all the items and -1 on EVERY item you did NOT have equipped. Therefore, using the same set of equipment is a good thing if you get that message (since you then you can craft masterwork items).

Not sure if I remember right, but you can't go beneath the basic. So you will never make "broken/bent/rusty" equipment. The -1 only applies to any +2 +3 you've already got but didn't wear when you got the message again.

EDIT: Changed +2 to +3. Thank Bulzur (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=profile;u=303) for the information.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Wiltzu on September 26, 2011, 02:50:51 pm
I've got that message but nothing has happened? =O
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Bulzur on September 26, 2011, 03:02:21 pm
When crafting is introduced you will be able to craft heirloomed weapons and armour. Getting that weapon means you get +2 on all the items and -1 on EVERY item you did NOT have equipped. Therefore, using the same set of equipment is a good thing if you get that message (since you then you can craft masterwork items).

Not sure if I remember right, but you can't go beneath the basic. So you will never make "broken/bent/rusty" equipment. The -1 only applies to any +2 you've already got but didn't wear when you got the message again.

+3 for your equipment, not +2.
But everything else is correct and nicely explained.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Blackzilla on September 26, 2011, 04:29:49 pm
When crafting is introduced you will be able to craft heirloomed weapons and armour. Getting that weapon means you get +2 on all the items and -1 on EVERY item you did NOT have equipped. Therefore, using the same set of equipment is a good thing if you get that message (since you then you can craft masterwork items).

Not sure if I remember right, but you can't go beneath the basic. So you will never make "broken/bent/rusty" equipment. The -1 only applies to any +2 you've already got but didn't wear when you got the message again.

Thx man
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Oberyn on September 26, 2011, 04:33:04 pm
Wait, but according to Mtemtko he usually gets that message when he switches equip around, in fact I've almost never seen this message myself and I always use the same equip. So I'm not sure if using the same set of equip all the time is actually the best way to take advantage of that message.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Jarlek on September 26, 2011, 10:53:29 pm
+3 for your equipment, not +2.
But everything else is correct and nicely explained.
Ahh, thanks. I was a bit unsure actually. Edited it in my post.

I've got that message but nothing has happened? =O
Nothing will happen. The bonus is also in strategus (crafting items for an army) and doesn't affect your cRPG character or equipment at all.

Wait, but according to Mtemtko he usually gets that message when he switches equip around, in fact I've almost never seen this message myself and I always use the same equip. So I'm not sure if using the same set of equip all the time is actually the best way to take advantage of that message.
Getting it while switching around gear can be both good and bad. It makes you able to craft more varied types of equipment, but it makes the boost less (because of the -1) making them not MW but x2 or x1.

The chance to gain this is also related to your character level. When you are lvl 30+ you chances to get it is almost nothing. Or it IS nothing. Can't remember. It's explained earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: What is THAT?
Post by: Niemand on October 17, 2011, 05:29:57 am
got it with lvl 30. But dont get it very often, it seems. so chances are low, aight.