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Title: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 05, 2011, 09:41:01 pm
Ill just wait until this changes. Penalty for failure is too high.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Tornkik on January 05, 2011, 10:11:52 pm
You're not the only one. I just hope whatever the problems are they get them fixed soon.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: DrKronic on January 05, 2011, 10:14:33 pm
I highly recommend padded armor and a low tier weapon to grind gold, I made like 12k in 2 hours like that
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Helrekkr on January 05, 2011, 10:20:50 pm
Weird, I played over 30 rounds tonight so far, with roughly 15k gear on, went from 3k gold to 15k gold.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 05, 2011, 10:26:42 pm
Weird, I played over 30 rounds tonight so far, with roughly 15k gear on, went from 3k gold to 15k gold.

See if you feel the same way after you hit a bad streak.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Baggy on January 05, 2011, 10:27:45 pm
Weird, I played over 30 rounds tonight so far, with roughly 15k gear on, went from 3k gold to 15k gold.

Your extremely lucky then.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 05, 2011, 10:48:36 pm
You're not the only one. I just hope whatever the problems are they get them fixed soon.
I hope they don't.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Tornkik on January 05, 2011, 10:50:35 pm
I hope they don't.

You don't want them to fix problems?  :|
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 05, 2011, 10:52:48 pm
I don't want them to fix problems that I don't see as problems because right now I think the upkeep cost is perfect.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: DarkFox on January 05, 2011, 10:55:05 pm
I don't want them to fix problems that I don't see as problems because right now I think the upkeep cost is perfect.
Agree.I think this is predicted reaction of people,they had everything and now they are losing it.I earned 20 000 today wearing good stuf,call it luck if you want,but I know some good players with same situation,they are gaining gold extremely fast.And finaly I got desire to win every round because I dont want to lose my stuf.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: FuFu on January 05, 2011, 10:57:50 pm
Lol, I must be one of the lucky few as well.  I been wearing over 25k worth of gear and so far have made 10k gold.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 05, 2011, 11:07:33 pm
Agree.I think this is predicted reaction of people,they had everything and now they are losing it.I earned 20 000 today wearing good stuf,call it luck if you want but I know the truth.I know some good players with same situation,they are gaining gold extremely fast.

The upkeep system is completely random and more then one piece can break per loss. It IS luck, it's a 3% chance per item with each loss.

Wait until you lose a game and lose some gold, then this repeats for a few rounds. Losing all your money is luck based unless you win every game. Eventually your number will come up and you will undo your last 15 wins.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: DarkFox on January 05, 2011, 11:25:44 pm
The upkeep system is completely random and more then one piece can break per loss. It IS luck, it's a 3% chance per item with each loss.

Wait until you lose a game and lose some gold, then this repeats for a few rounds. Losing all your money is luck based unless you win every game. Eventually your number will come up and you will undo your last 15 wins.
We will see...I will buy plated charger after some time. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: bruce on January 05, 2011, 11:30:00 pm
As with all random sequences, they sort of balance each other as you approach infinity. My suggestion would be to keep a sizeable gold buffer to combat temporary variance... but it really does seem (to me) after about 5 hours or so of playing that upkeeping about 20k of gear is completely feasible.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: YIT_Lanka on January 05, 2011, 11:36:34 pm
Played all morning and most of afternoon (like.. 10 hour straight) with 15~23k worth equipment on and made ~50k profit, if not more..

Oh, and I'm one of those squishy archers.. only had couple of maps with 5x rolling whole map and getting to top 5 on team. :s
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 05, 2011, 11:38:07 pm
We will see...I will buy plated charger after some time. :rolleyes:

Horses don't have an upkeep, which is why you see so many.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Kophka on January 05, 2011, 11:47:05 pm
I, for one, love seeing people using light-medium armors finally, and I'm not going to lament the death of the "Plate/SoT or Poleaxe/Sniperxbow" loadouts.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Helrekkr on January 05, 2011, 11:48:01 pm
Actually I still use a bardiche and sniper xbow and i'm making gold not losing :P
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Stabby_Dave on January 05, 2011, 11:52:40 pm
The problem is that the modifier makes it seem like your losing shitloads because if you're on a low modifier, it means you're losing and so your equipment is breaking. The low modifier compounds this because it gives you such a small amount of gold. However a relatively small amount of time on a high modifier has the opposite effect: your equipment doesnt break since you're winning and you get loads of gold (250 per minute!!!).

When i started playing today i went about 3 maps without getting a modifier above 2x and i lost about 4-5 thousand using medium tier stuff (Cuir Bouilli, long hafted blade, knightly heather shield) i then got 5 times modifier for 3 rounds (plus the build up to the 5x) and i made up my lost gold easily plus a little bit more.

Overall tonight using the above equipment and occasionally a palfrey i've made about 10k gold. Give it time and dont use high tier equipment and you'll find you do actually make gold.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Zophos on January 06, 2011, 12:04:09 am
So emm, let me get this straight. Horses have no upkeep currently...?
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: YIT_Lanka on January 06, 2011, 12:24:11 am
So emm, let me get this straight. Horses have no upkeep currently...?
Who knows.. Ask in-game and infantry tells you they're free while cavalry insist on horses having upkeep costs if they die in battle..

All I know is that friend never had to pay for his Destrier dieing in combat so.. :/
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: McCart on January 06, 2011, 01:10:06 am
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Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Zophos on January 06, 2011, 01:25:31 am
Hmm... I wonder if I should buy the elephant then. I really want it but I cba to waiste 64k gold on something I can't use, that's still hours and hours of time wasted.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Leiknir on January 06, 2011, 01:31:47 am
I am playing with 22k gear, and have no problem maintaining it, slowly gaining gold.
Do you use an item more than once? If so, the decay check is per item selected, not per item. (3 stacks of throwing lances? it checks 3 times if it will break)
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: MrNicklebe on January 06, 2011, 01:41:23 am
Started the day with 20k, bought 15k of gear to replace my plate. Went up to 20k in a few hours again easily then back down to around 9k for some time then back up to 22k where i stayed for the rest of the day. Bit if a rollercoaster but i'm in the profit at the end of my play session!

So seems fine to me! I'm not really missing plate armour tbh either.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 06, 2011, 02:34:45 am
I am playing with 22k gear, and have no problem maintaining it, slowly gaining gold.

Come back when you get unlucky. It's a horrible feeling to be broke because the gods of the RNG hate you after one match loss.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Kung Fu Jesus on January 06, 2011, 05:59:45 am
I carry 2 weapons and wear a dress, which is a downgrade from my transitional armor and full loadout. Thats fine. I'd carry only one weapon but I need a pike for obvious reasons. Since the patch, I have been on the losing team probably 75% of the time. I regularly go 0-4 on a map because of this. I have no control over this. I am barely able to maintain the gold I have, forget about getting more. Plus the more a team loses, the worse it gets because they start spawning naked and looting weapons off the field, thus losing again. You can tell people to play as a team and all that shit but let's not be naive here. This is team deathmatch and no one in the history of team deathmatch can ever get everyone to play together in some military precision for any period of time. A round here and there maybe but thats it. And the teams winning now are not playing as a team either. THey are just lucky enough to have the top players and/or players with horses and know how to use them. It's still the same 4-5 top guys carrying the whole team. If you're lucky and get on their team, welcome to the gravy train of 5x xp and gold, even if you can't hit the side of a barn with your sword.

If I kill one person per round, but my team loses, do I still get item decay? Because that is the only thing I have some control over. But if I can go 20-0(I don't cuz I suck) and my team still loses four times, something is messed up.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Astinus on January 06, 2011, 06:20:58 am
it could be possible to be a bug to some people paying much than waht they are expected too. Everyone should be able to gain shitload of gold with a 20K equipment
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 06, 2011, 07:53:08 am
I carry 2 weapons and wear a dress, which is a downgrade from my transitional armor and full loadout. Thats fine. I'd carry only one weapon but I need a pike for obvious reasons. Since the patch, I have been on the losing team probably 75% of the time. I regularly go 0-4 on a map because of this. I have no control over this. I am barely able to maintain the gold I have, forget about getting more. Plus the more a team loses, the worse it gets because they start spawning naked and looting weapons off the field, thus losing again. You can tell people to play as a team and all that shit but let's not be naive here. This is team deathmatch and no one in the history of team deathmatch can ever get everyone to play together in some military precision for any period of time. A round here and there maybe but thats it. And the teams winning now are not playing as a team either. THey are just lucky enough to have the top players and/or players with horses and know how to use them. It's still the same 4-5 top guys carrying the whole team. If you're lucky and get on their team, welcome to the gravy train of 5x xp and gold, even if you can't hit the side of a barn with your sword.

If I kill one person per round, but my team loses, do I still get item decay? Because that is the only thing I have some control over. But if I can go 20-0(I don't cuz I suck) and my team still loses four times, something is messed up.

Pretty much. When I log onto a server and do that first round of "spec" I find myself checking who is on the other team. When it's "Plate_Charger XIX" and "Black Armor XXVI", both going 40 and 0 and on the enemy team, I just spawn naked and throw rocks. I'll do this until I have a team that at least looks even. Why bother paying? I can't beat them before they kill half my team. I can't afford to try either.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Kalam on January 06, 2011, 08:08:31 am
I played with cloth armour and a fast 2H and random polearm before the patch and currently play with a langes messer (usually in 2H mode) and a pike. I don't seem to notice much of a difference- except the first map I played, when I was annoyed by the fact that there were medium armoured folk outrunning me. And then I levelled and all was good with the world.

So far I've gained about 12k, and most of that was with a population of 20 on the server in about two hours. I'm sitting on 140k. o.O

I guess the biggest difference is that it seems harder for me to take on multiple opponents, but that seems to be fading back to normal, too.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 06, 2011, 08:30:07 am
Sure am glad I can't afford my actual gear now.

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This keeps happening. Over and over and over my crap breaks en masse.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 06, 2011, 08:35:25 am
I mean if I wasn't joking around and in my gimmick gear that would have cost me over 6 grand! For losing one round! And thats in my cheap set, pre-patch I wore armor that cost 10k, and carried a crossbow in addition to my pick and shield. I can't do that now because I literally cannot afford it.
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: Helrekkr on January 06, 2011, 08:37:41 am
Wow, how do you even have the courage to walk around outside with that kind of bad luck ? :P
Title: Re: Went from 18k gold to 12k gold, in 5 rounds. I had 12k in gear on.
Post by: AirPhforce on January 06, 2011, 06:16:31 pm
Wow, how do you even have the courage to walk around outside with that kind of bad luck ? :P

I have no idea.