NA Siege Map Discussion

[Airith]

Discuss the maps on the NA Siege server here. Discuss nominations as well.
No harassing map makers, constructive criticism only. Making a map is a lot more work then you'd think.

[Airith]

Reserved.

[Digglez]

can you edit custom maps made by other players? like if we all agreed on certain edits that needed to be made

[Knute]

Any possible fixes for the ramp problem?  Would it be possible to adjust some of the NA maps and try replacing the ramps with siege towers or non mobile ramps?

Example on Siege Defense map:

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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/mb334.jpg/

Also, I've noticed on the Hadrian's Wall map (the one where attackers start on beach, hills on either side) that the siege tower sometimes has an invisible barrier that makes it difficult to climb up the last section of steps to the area with the ramp.  It's possible to get past it, but requires a lot of jumping like when climbing a steep ladder.

Lastly, interesting variation of the str_blank_83 Jammadi_Castle map (desert castle, round wall and moat around flag) on the european siege server.  They give the defenders a parapet around the inner wall and block the street off by the gate, so it's harder for the attackers to get a ladder up to the round wall unopposed.

Inner wall:

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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/mb322.jpg/

Towers on the sides have 2 locked doors:

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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/mb318.jpg/

Overhead view:

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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/mb323i.jpg/

[Digglez]

looks like some nice changes on that one.


On Hailes Castle map, there needs to be a ladder/ramp in the far back so you dont have to walk around half the castle to get down without jumping and losing half your health.

And horses should be able to go up the 2 stairs on this map.

[Camaris]

Would love to get some feedback for my map (winter castle).

[Knute]

Would love to get some feedback for my map (winter castle).

After playing it a couple times, it seems balanced, maybe slightly in the defenders favor because attackers have about 4 different routes to the flag so are less likely to attack together in one big mob.  I like how there's lots of high places to snipe from as an archer too.  Good map.

[Digglez]

Blank 110 is another unbalanced map, hardly ever see defenders win.  The flag is so exposed to enemy archers not to mention no room at the top to combat, so you're left to battle on stairs and get overheaded into your feet and die.

The ladder & siege tower are within 15ft of the gate control and no doors to even slow them down.

The wooden doors to the inner keep are too weak and die quickly, especially when there is no way to get out and get them off the doors. 

The map is a joke and needs serious remake to provide defense a chance in hell.

[ICEMAN1779]

110 i think i will take out the ladder on that one thay seem to take the gatehouse way to fast.

[Knute]

On the Hadrian's Wall map:  The drop down ladder on the left side (facing castle from beach) is too steep to walk over at the top, some people were able to jump over but it's impossible to do that when a defender is there.  I just noticed it on the 3rd round so dunno if it's broken from the start or gets gradually worse like siege ramps.

[chaosegg]

Blank 84 seems to have been removed thankfully...

blank 103 is in the same category now though... of maps that defense wins 90% of the time.
it's the one with 2 doors and a sewer for attackers to enter... a relatively convoluted building with flag at top floor (inside)

ranged can easily cover/choke the sewer, and after the first round it takes ages to just break through the other 2 doors,
then you have winding narrow corridors and stairs without end which make the defense easy again.
Good map, just needs something...
like the top/flag room chopped off and flag put down where the target dummies are maybe
(and make the target dummy into a dinning hall perhaps, moving the targets to the lawn in the middle of the building?).

[Tears of Destiny]

Blank 84 seems to have been removed thankfully...

blank 103 is in the same category now though... of maps that defense wins 90% of the time.
it's the one with 2 doors and a sewer for attackers to enter... a relatively convoluted building with flag at top floor (inside)

I despise that map. Even getting the entire team to commit to just one attack route does not even work.
It plays like it has one more layer of defense then is needed. I suggest taking out  a few doors or shortening the path to the flag, something. The flag is just too high up, and the "winding" effect ov the staircase means that defense can just go hog wild when shooting, though honestly even with few archers the defense still mows down the attackers due to the innumerable chokepoints.

[Malaclypse]

Maybe it's just been poor defense or good offense, but every time I've played Blank 103 it's been 2 to 3, a full five rounds before the map finishes.

[chaosegg]

I edited my post with suggestion for blank 103...
agree with

I despise that map. Even getting the entire team to commit to just one attack route does not even work.
It plays like it has one more layer of defense then is needed. I suggest taking out  a few doors or shortening the path to the flag, something.
The flag is just too high up, and the "winding" effect of the staircases means that defense can just go hog wild when shooting, though honestly even with few archers the defense still mows down the attackers due to the innumerable chokepoints.

Seems like most people hate that map.

Maybe it's just been poor defense or good offense, but every time I've played Blank 103 it's been 2 to 3, a full five rounds before the map finishes.

I hear you; sometimes when you get certain people playing together... magic just happens, haha, but
that map can be a real buzz-kill when you are on losing side for all 5 rounds (team-switched back an forth).

Sort of same thing with how blank84 started just emptying the server since the map beat the attackers not the players,
although this map doesn't empty it since it is new and sort of fun b/c at least you are banging on a door,
and/or running around nice, relatively narrow, hallways, or sniping at someone in a window/up stairs, etc.
instead of blank84 where you just run and run and run from town to the banquet hall.

P.S.
I guess it is time I opened and learned how to use the map creator 

[Malaclypse]

I guess it is time I opened and learned how to use the map creator 

Do it dood! I've also been trying to get GK_Leonidas (of the Native clan Golden Kingdom) to hook cRPG up with his siege maps, because he makes freaking awesome ones.