Future AWESOME Sandbox Free-Roam Multiplayer ZOMBIE GAME!!

[//saxon]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sandswept/the-dead-linger?ref=category

just watch ! i got a feeling this will be awesome.

[Vibe]

"This project will only be funded if at least $60,000 is pledged by Sunday Apr 29, 6:00pm EDT. "

Such games are bound to fail.

Take a cool theme, like zombies, strap on a few fancy titles like SANDBOX (oh how misused this title is), MULTIPLAYER, AWESOME, a few screens and people already throwing money at it? The fuck.

[Thovex]

"This project will only be funded if at least $60,000 is pledged by Sunday Apr 29, 6:00pm EDT. "

Such games are bound to fail.

Take a cool theme, like zombies, strap on a few fancy titles like SANDBOX (oh how misused this title is), MULTIPLAYER, AWESOME, a few screens and people already throwing money at it? The fuck.

That's kickstarter, but they got over 50% already.

[Vibe]

That's kickstarter,

Cool, but what does kickstarter have to do with it other than being a website that helps gather funds?

but they got over 50% already.

Yes, exactly, what the fuck.

[RandomDude]

How do you know they actually have that 50%?

They could have like $10 or $100,000 and then at the cut off point say they dont have enough money to make it.

[Thovex]

Honestly, a lot of games passed with Kickstarter, even some 4 million $USD game passed, they show an amount on the right of the webpage RandomDude but all will be refunded if it doesn't pass afaik.

[bilwit]

How do you know they actually have that 50%?

They could have like $10 or $100,000 and then at the cut off point say they dont have enough money to make it.

lolwut.

[Vibe]

Honestly, a lot of games passed with Kickstarter, even some 4 million $USD game passed, they show an amount on the right of the webpage RandomDude but all will be refunded if it doesn't pass afaik.

What I fail to understand is people donating to such projects. I mean I'm totally OK if the game is already in atleast Alpha, and there's already some playable content and gameplay videos or atleast something more than just a few screens of character models. But this... it just looks like a ripoff. There's absolutely no sign that they will ever finish this game or how it will turn out in the end. This is like gambling on a Vegas slot machince.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

I agree with Vibe here...
...those "rewards" for donating doesn't sound like a good idea either, either it's just a scam or else we'll have 50% of all game content have names like bigdickbob's avenue, etc.

[B3RS3RK]

I dont think you guys understand what this Kickstarter thing is about...

It´s about giving a chance to projects that would never see the light of the day elsewise because they wont get any support from publishers.

Those guys are probably mostly guys like chadz and his team who decided they wanted to make the game of their dreams(I mean, really, a Sandbox First Person Zombie Shooter is the wet dream of most gamers ), but they also decided they couldnt do it in their free time/Without professional help in some problems.

There are already games funded like this in development, and I believe it´s a really refreshing approach to the development of games which we should support.

the only thing I am worried about with THIS game however is, all they promise really to do with the 60000 Dollar is a working Alpha version.That means they could still easily say after that "Meh, Dont wanna go on" or just sell theirselves out to EA or some other dickhead publisher.

[Thovex]

I think kickstarter is a good way to get indies on the road with their games and they can eventually turn pro indie.

[Materia]

The only good reward for higher monetary support is percentage of sales.

As for me, idea is good, but the way all this is organized is not.

They want people to give them money, and they pretty much give them nothing similar to the amount of money they put in to the project.

The lowest tiers are fine. Give us X dolars, we will give you a game + some bonus. Cool.

When looking at the highest tiers (give us X thousand-s dolars, we will give you some crap), thats not at all encouraing.

[chadz]

What I consider odd with this kickstarter things - it's not really funding, it's donations. Sometimes you don't even get the game when it's finished even though you paid (not enough)

If I were ever to do something like this, I'd give everyone who funds it a partial revenue share. Makes everyone happy.

[B3RS3RK]

These People arent the salvation army.

Of course their main goal is to make money with their game.If they give out shares to every donator they won´t make much at all.

I think the main Idea is to get people to donate the money they have spare for the development of the game they want.

Hands down, who wouldnt like to play a sandbox Zombie-Egoshooter?

And if you got like 10 bucks left at the moment and you are a dedicated gamer, hey why not donate that?

If that game really is made and if it´s good you will probably say "Worth it!", even if you have to pay another 30 bucks to buy it.

[chadz]

These People arent the salvation army.

But that's the point, entirely - they are expecting the gamers to be just that.

The problem I have with it is that the hype will fail in some time. Eventually there will be a point where players do not have the money any more to just donate. Also, I personally feel that donations are for games that are in general non-profit.

Of course their main goal is to make money with their game.If they give out shares to every donator they won´t make much at all.

That's how life works. If you want money from a bank, you pay interest. If you get investors for your project, they expect a revenue share.

Take this game for example: So they need 60k. Let's say they sell their product for 300k in total. So give 180k back to the investors (everyone gets 200% profit), and the developers earned an additional 120k (additional regarding the monthly wage they are getting already)

It's really economical basics.

To be honest, I'd be really interested in putting money into games that I believe could become a success and get a share of that. THAT could kill EA. Not donation funded games, that hype will die eventually.

Edit: I'm sorry, I'm drifting offtopic, any mod want to split it?