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Pikewall bonuses!

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Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« on: March 21, 2012, 10:23:11 pm »
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Short story shorter.

Shields give bonuses when put together, so for pikes make every adjacent pike give +1 Power Strike.

Why? Well:

  • Realism, notice that later on pike formations dominated much of the battlefield.
  • Strength needs a buff, and this would allow strength players to properly compete against AGI, earlier I saw a thread about STR needing a buff and I agree.
  • Pikes are UP, need buffs.
  • AGI builds currently suffer, so make it where this would allow them to compete with strength builds due to the free power strike.
  • It is unbalanced and totally unfair for shields to have bonuses because they are a skillless class, so we should reward players to play harder stuff like polearms.
  • We need to reward teamwork and this would encourage it.
  • Formations look cool and stuff, especially with the new black armour.
  • This would properly nerf solo pike users by creating a proper incentive to group up, making them more exposed to range and also getting rid of those ninja pokers.

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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 10:25:41 pm »
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Oh yeah and like, this would uh... Nerf cav and stuff too. Cuz pikewalls! This would also allow us to increase horsebump damage to realistic one-shot levels WITHOUT it being OP, due to the pikewalls!
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 10:27:36 pm by Tears of Destiny »
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 10:29:11 pm »
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 10:31:22 pm »
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For a moment I thought you were serious because most Fallen members seem to be hoplites these days. And I know that you have polespam alt.

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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 10:35:53 pm »
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Point 2 : STR needs a buff
Point 4 : AGI suffer
Hum... that's... hum... contradictory.


Point 5 : Totally agree.
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 10:44:59 pm »
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It could work I guess but there would have to be restrictions to stop it from being abused. Like it only works while standing still or something.

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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 10:46:18 pm »
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For a moment I thought you were serious because most Fallen members seem to be hoplites these days. And I know that you have polespam alt.

I think we only have 1 hoplite. But I use a pike a lot on my alt.

It could work I guess but there would have to be restrictions to stop it from being abused. Like it only works while standing still or something.

Maybe it could be +1 IF for every other pike near you (To a max of like 3 or something)

That way it's more about surviving arrows and such.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 10:48:06 pm by Anwyl »

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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 10:52:45 pm »
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 10:55:48 pm »
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You had me until you said shielder is a skill-less class.  You need all the friends you can get to lobby!

If spin-stab is removed, I will vote yes to pike walls.

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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 10:59:49 pm »
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 11:17:46 pm »
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2012, 12:00:18 am »
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I really dont think Strength needs a buff lol, and pikes do incredible damage already all you need to do is stick with a teammate. Rewarding teamwork is very good but pikes dont really need a buff.
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 12:05:59 am »
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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 12:14:13 am »
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The only attribute that would get a big gain from a free PS bonus is agi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4

I'd say I'm fine with an anti-range only armor bonus to symbolise the projectiles that are deflected by the pikewall (this is historically accurate). But I'll pass because this thread is about trolling.

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Re: Pikewalls and bonuses like shieldwalls.
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 12:21:17 am »
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2. Strength needs a buff, and this would allow strength players to properly compete against AGI, earlier I saw a thread about STR needing a buff and I agree.
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4. AGI builds currently suffer, so make it where this would allow them to compete with strength builds due to the free power strike.

Point 2 does not make any sense and is contradicted by point 4.


If this is not some kind of weird trolling I actually like the idea of the suggestion, but I think it's useless.

Pikemen can't use shield, so many pikes standing next to each other would draw a lot of fire. Which will end badly for the pike wall.

Next to this, the use of several pikes on one spot is rather limited, because all melee players need to do is to downblock. Pikes are only effective if supported by (or better: supporting) other melee weapons with more attack directions. Yes, pikes can be really nasty, but guess what happens when five two handers run downblockingly (?) into a wall of several pikemen who are standing close to each other, and facehug them. Best thing the pikes can achieve in this scenario are a few glance-stuns, nothing more. If their formation is broken up they will block each other, while the two handed swordsmen can go rampage between them.

Mixing the pike wall with other classes would break up the bonus, I guess. Standing still and blocking with your shield works better without moving than fighting with a slow, unbalanced and single-directionally attacking pike.

So I say I am neither for nor against this suggestion, all I say it's useless.
Joker makes a very good point.
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