new gamemode - ladder?

[chadz]

So, I'm (somewhat) back. It might take some time till I have dug through all messages I got, and by the sheer mass of it I'm afraid I'll skip quite a few, sorry about that

Anyway, I was thinking - would people be interested in a clan competition?

This would add a third kind of gameplay to the game.
First there is the public game, normal battles, sieges, and other upcoming gamemodes.
Then there is strategus, it's a highly suited for clan controls, but it's far from a fair battleground.
And then there could be a ladder, a highly standardized competition where clans fight other clans in clear conditions.

As it would be a bit silly to let everyone use their standard cRPG Equipment (people would just have the urge to grind gold naked before a match, that's not the point of it), it could be something like this:

- There's a list of clans, sorted by rank (#1 to # 123)
- Clans can attack people some ranks higher than them
- Maps can be picked by either side (Defender choses first map, attacker choses 2nd map, server decides tie breaker)
- The amount of gold is randomized and the same for both teams - this means that, for the entire clan, you get gold between (just some figures) 30k and 1000k.
- you can then buy items for your members. Due to the randomness of the money, every match will be different - could be peasant fight, could be plated match.
- every server (doesn't need to be an official one) can host a match, the clans just have to agree on one.
- gamemode will be either pure battle, OR clans choice (defenders select map+gamemode, side could be switched after every round)
- after the game is played, the winners defend their rank or move up to the rank and move the other clan lower.

Are people in general interested in this? Or isn't this cRPG-ish enough?

[Tristan]

This... This would be awesome....

I tried to do something similar with my clan tournament, but this would outshine it by far...

Rock on!

[Leiknir]

Sounds interesting, but there was not that much interest in Aemaelius player driven personal tournament, and only ~6 different clans did show interest in his clan-ladder.
I would rather have some simple more refreshing gamemodes like conquest, and let tournaments be player driven

[EliteDragon]

Although this is great idea chadz, it might not work too well atm with the low number of clans. Your idea would be much better when our clan count increases which would increase the likelihood of more clans participating.

[Tristan]

Sounds interesting, but there was not that much interest in Aemaelius player driven personal tournament, and only ~6 different clans did show interest in his clan-ladder.
I would rather have some simple more refreshing gamemodes like conquest, and let tournaments be player driven

This is (sadly) true. You could outsource this and let the community run it, while giving us the tools to do so... which we actually already have (server with no balance)...

I still like the idea though...

[jspook]

Although this is great idea chadz, it might not work too well atm with the low number of clans. Your idea would be much better when our clan count increases which would increase the likelihood of more clans participating

you are thinking about this the wrong way.
IE: the existing clan structure

instead....
make it a 10-20 man team ladder
create a registration date with maximum roster allowences and you will see the ladder fill up as people vie for team positions.
this would most likely cause the creation of NEW clans and participation.
You would even see clans fielding multiple ladder teams
The battles dont have to be huge, just tactical TDF matches on small maps.

I like the idea of randomized cash flow for each match.... but how would you enforce that?   a posted equipment list before each match?

[Arked]

(...)
First there is the public game, normal battles, sieges, and other upcoming gamemodes.
(...)

Is Capture the Flag mode going to be fixed? Shogunate is willing to host a server with this gamemode.

Your idea of clan rivalization other than strategus battles sounds really good and would be great addition!
Shogunate, Fallen, Guards and Templars are already doing some friendly battles for fun.

[chadz]

You could outsource this and let the community run it, while giving us the tools to do so...

I'd be perfectly fine with that. It was actually your effort that made me think how clan competition could work in cRPG. That's why I think different equipment than standard cRPG is a must, so it might actually cater to other clans from other mods too, though.

So, how about this:
Every player can make a "battlegroup" on the crpg site.
You could give it a name and buy as much equipment for it as you want.
Then, it could work like this: You host a server with the gametype "battlegroups", and an admin/by vote (?) you can set a battlegroup for each team. (Two input fields, and you just enter the id of battlegroup for the first team, and the id of the battlegroup for the 2nd team).

The game reloads, people can pick whatever team they want, and can do any kind of game they want (peasants vs black knights, clan competition, etc)

[Cannibal]

I'd be perfectly fine with that. It was actually your effort that made me think how clan competition could work in cRPG. That's why I think different equipment than standard cRPG is a must, so it might actually cater to other clans from other mods too, though.

So, how about this:
Every player can make a "battlegroup" on the crpg site.
You could give it a name and buy as much equipment for it as you want.
Then, it could work like this: You host a server with the gametype "battlegroups", and an admin/by vote (?) you can set a battlegroup for each team. (Two input fields, and you just enter the id of battlegroup for the first team, and the id of the battlegroup for the 2nd team).

The game reloads, people can pick whatever team they want, and can do any kind of game they want (peasants vs black knights, clan competition, etc)

Now that sounds like cricket.

[Poetrydog]

What OP says sounds great. Don't really understand above post 
Oh and pure battlemode for clan battles 

[Thomek]

Brilliant idea!

Would definitely take some pressure off strategus though, but I think there is room for both!
Why the hell don't we already have this? :-)
Also, would be a good idea to have 2 ladders, one for EU and one for NA.
Then we might have a superfinal match at some point between best EU and NA clan..

server should of course be in Iceland!

[Tristan]

A small "league" council should be made to govern the league

But Thomek you are already into details...

[Earthdforce]

I love it chadz, but I'd rather have strategus back first

[Tetris]

Sounds like Gladiator Battles. Roman times each "Noble" had their own battle groups. So I guess thats what your trying to do.

They would equip them and train them - etc.

P.S. Champion Battle group would govern said "League". Nothing was ever fair ;)

[Tetris]

chadz just a suggestion for Strategus.

Why dont you add tournaments(Held by landowners) The landowners would decide the rules,map.
And seeing that I "guess" land owners would be rich they'd set gold winnings. Then there could be bets.

Just like SP. This would give something loners on strategus to look forward to.